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To: SJackson
Apparently a lot, everything from the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli, including the war of 1812, and Monroe’s rightful doctrine that we’d kick the *ss of any European nation daring to seek influence in our hemisphere. Not exactly neutral. Yeah we kicked ass in 1812... I think we entered that because they were taking our sailors off our ships, eh? That sounds more like self defense. The Monroe Doctrine was probably a bit of braggadocio (sp). You are correct, it is not totally neutral, but at least we kept out of the Old World.

It’s my opinion that old George (who made his speech in the context of criticism for not aiding France in their ongoing war against England, in recognition of their help during the Revolution. As you may or may not know, we ended up taking sides in 1812) would have recognized our loss of oceanic insularity about the time Monroe did.

Looks like I was actually quoting Jefferson's Inaguaral:

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations- entangling alliances with none."

There, did I get that right? Did I interpret it correctly, Professor?

His opinions on America keeping true to her alliances are clear. Sure, clearly your are the bearer of the truth, I’m factually challenged. I’ll let anyone reading this thread draw their own conclusions. ===================================================== As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent Patriot…. The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign Nations, is, in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little Political connection as possible.-So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith.-Here let us stop…-

Well, look at that. Repeat:

Guess I wasn't so far away from Washington after all. We didn't have an Israel in 1801, did we? Correct me if I am wrong...

191 posted on 02/23/2003 4:36:24 PM PST by SteveH
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To: SteveH
Well, look at that. Repeat:

So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith.-Here let us stop…-

192 posted on 02/23/2003 4:37:26 PM PST by SteveH
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