Why Does the Left Hate Israel?

www.chronwatch.com ^ | 2/21/03 | Cinnamon Stillwell

[SeenTheLight]

Sound familiar, counter-protesters?

[SeenTheLight]

Just guessing you might be interested in this, from past comments...

[BenR2]

Good post. I am 50. Seems when I was young (in my teens), the left still loved Israel for its Kibbutzim and secular (liberal) Jews.

But, that was when the Left could still produce some semblance of moral indignation (and really mean it) at various injustices.

Now, their outrage is always make-believe and patently political at its root.

[LaraCroft]

Read and agree. However....

WHY DO JEWISH PEOPLE OVERWHELMINGLY VOTE DEMOCRAT?

Lara, putting new meaning into the fact that the Clintons hosted Arafat more than any other HOS.

[StACase]

When I was in High School, the book to read was "Exodus" My God how Isreal was revered in those days. And to answer your question as to what happened between then and now, I think it goes like this: One fine day in the the mid sixties American liberals woke up to the horrifying fact that Isreal was one very gutsy little conservative country. Shortly thereafter, a 180 occurred.

[SeenTheLight]

WHY DO JEWISH PEOPLE OVERWHELMINGLY VOTE DEMOCRAT?

Some of us are trying to change that trend. The Republican Jewish Coalition comes to mind, among others. Just like African-Americans, Jews need to wake up and cross over to the light. BTW, all this hatred from the left and their Democratic buddies is only helping the cause!

[tessalu]

I think the Jewish people are waking up.

[what's up]

Judging from Sharon's approval ratings, I would say you're correct!

They didn't like him till he got into office and realized that force actually worked.

[DontMessWithMyCountry]

I don't think so. Not at all. Strangely enough, when I discuss the Israeli/pali issue with Jewish friends, I swear that I think I've entered the "Outer Limits". EACH one of them sounds like they could be P.R. agents for the PLO. Honestly, what I really think has happened is that they are (subconsciously) SO wanting to be 'liked' (because of the reprehensible image that the media has painted over the years) that they've practically become manikan-like in their replies to things...spewing forth the same lies that the lamestream media has programmed them to state. The answers are practically dumbfounding, devoid of ANY logic or reasoning or principle. Indeed, some of them seem torn between their (inner and REAL) attachment to their heritage, and their desire to be 'accepted', so they start alluding to their romantic attraction to Buddhism.

One told me that the reason that Christians are supporting the Jews in Israel is because he's sure they want someone ELSE to hate. (Good thing there aren't any Jewish bigots, eh?) When I said, "no, perhaps they have a 'problem' with people MURDERING innocent people, do you think?", he was speechless (as he SHOULD have been).

Anyway, another said, "ohh, but they [the Israelis] have sooo much land in Israel, can't they share it?" (I'm NOT kidding; my eyes must've dilated in sync with my head shaking in disbelief at that logic). I (nicely) said, "what?!" So much land?! They have a patch! Look at Egypt and Saudi Arabia!" She smiled, sweetly, and said, "oh, yes, I guess so." Duh. And, she started talking about how 'lovely' and nicey-nice Buddhism is.

I had a (Jewish) boyfriend who couldn't STAND my supporting Israel's right (and moral duty) to protect itself against the homicide-bombers. The closer we would get to discussing Judaism AND the situation in Israel TODAY, the more he would 'run' with his new-found lovefest with Buddhism (yet, he had not the calm that one would expect if he actually WAS Buddhist). We actually broke up over it!

[Dubya]

Good post. Well said.

[Objective Reality]

well heck, this's easy. If "the enemy (fundamentalist Islam) of my enemy (fundamentalist Christianity) is my friend," then it stands to reason that "the friend (God's chosen people) of my enemy (fundamentalist Christianity) is my enemy." The Left's motivations are usually absurdly easy to discern.

[Porterville]

The reason liberals hate Israel: Because it is essentially an American protectorate; Israel also affords us an important base of intelligence in the Mid East. Liberals hate America. Israel is an extension of American ideas including the control of the Christian/Jewish holy land. Liberals hate western religion; Jews and Christian get to enjoy the romance of the Old Testament without obstruction if we jointly control Jerusalem. Western Religion is the backbone of modern civilization. It gives us faith and hope for the future. I personally like it that way and am glad that the west controls that small piece of heaven.

[budwiesest]

for every Isreali killed in a terrorist act, at least four Palestinians are killed in either retaliatory measures, or just plain "housekeeping")

I'd take out a hundred Palis for every suicide bomber. I'm not Jewish. My message to those with an axe to grind would be meet me on the battlefield or at negotiating table, but never take it to innocents.

Terrorists are not warriors, they are a cancer and should be dealt with accordingly.

[Objective Reality]

sigh. Learn to spell, twentysomething.

P.S. - Oh yes, he IS your President.

[tictoc]

I had a (Jewish) boyfriend who couldn't STAND my supporting Israel's right (and moral duty) to protect itself against the homicide-bombers.

Weep not for that loser (although to be honest, that description could have fit me as little as two years ago!)

Good psychological insight in your comment, in my opinion.

[GunRunner]

The only difference is, if you don't like Sharon, you can wait around a few years and vote him out of office (Israel is a democracy by the way). As a quasi-dictator of a non-existent country, Arafat has outlasted his opponents by decades, and kneecaps anyone who dares oppose him. At least Sharon is accountable (he resigned as Defense Minister over Sabra & Shatilla, which I assume is the reason you call him a thug).

[Porterville]

Screw it, Israel is and always will be, it's prophecy, it will be that way till end of times. What the left doesn't realize is that those willing to protect Israel are 100 times more zealous than any one who would try to diminish the rights of Israel. The voices of discontent who denegrate the leadership of Israel are irrelevant. Even Lieberaman, Mr. Left himself, would turn the sands of the Sahra to glass before letting Israel fall.

[SeenTheLight]

Putting Sharon and Arafat on the same footing is a familiar, though faulty, tactic of the left. Sharon was democratically elected, while Arafat is a dictatorial thug. Throughout the "peace process," a succession of Israeli Prime Ministers have had only one representative to consult with on the Palestinian side. Beyond that, the differences are too numerous to list here, but considering your post, you wouldn't believe me anyway.

The "cycle of violence" you mention is another falsehood. The Palestinians commit terrorist acts and the Israelis respond. Notice how suicide bombings stop when the IDF gets tough?

And why should the "speaker" or writer, as you say, retract her blanket claim of anti-Semitism? Did you not read the experiences the writer described from the so-called peace rallies? Perhaps it is a generalization, but when no one speaks out about the anti-Semitism from within the movement, it can be inferred that they're going along with it. And that's not good enough.