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Illegal Aliens Eligible for Social Security Benefits
Fox ^ | 2/19/03 | Matt Hayes

Posted on 02/19/2003 8:55:02 PM PST by hoosierskypilot

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:35:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Annie was an ethnic Chinese born in Malaysia who had legally emigrated to the U.S. decades ago. She entered my law office with her mother, who clutched a well-worn copy of a Chinese language book called What You Need to Know About Life in America that is eventually encountered by most immigration lawyers.


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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; covet; coveting; enemywithin; governmenttheft; illegalimmigration; illegals; legalplunder; nofreelunch; plunder; redistributingwealth; serfdom; serfs; socialism; socialsecurity; theft; thewelfarestate; welfarestate
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1 posted on 02/19/2003 8:55:02 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: hoosierskypilot
I am furious over this stuff. What are we going to do?
2 posted on 02/19/2003 9:01:13 PM PST by maranatha
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To: hoosierskypilot
The treaty, which is unique in that it provides a foreign government Social Security money even for those of its citizens who have worked illegally in America, may be timed to coincide with the 2004 elections.
W to Republicans- "Yeah it sucks, but what are you going to do about it?  BWAAHAAHAAHAA!!!"
 

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

3 posted on 02/19/2003 9:09:28 PM PST by End Times Sentinel
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To: hoosierskypilot
Hoosier,

You need to speak to Rep. Dana Rohrabacher!

He's MY Rep BUT! Went to my first-ever "town hall meeting." and it was quite an eye-opener.

Among other things, he had a story about a relative requesting help regarding a employee foreign worker who went back to their country and couldn't get back in.

Turns out the relative owned a car wash and the worker was in the country on a visa for highly skilled workers ... doctors, scientists . Says he couldn't do it ... why would someone with that type of visa be working in a car wash?

Good question.
4 posted on 02/19/2003 9:13:37 PM PST by LNewman
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To: maranatha
THIS JUST PUTS ME OVER THE TOP, I'M SORRY!! What is going ON with this administration's determination to GIVE AWAY this country on our backs?
5 posted on 02/19/2003 9:20:12 PM PST by ysoitanly
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To: ysoitanly
And we can't seem to find the bucks to fund care in our system for our VETERANS???????????????????????
6 posted on 02/19/2003 10:13:06 PM PST by NMFXSTC
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To: ysoitanly; Owl_Eagle; maranatha; FITZ; janetgreen; madfly; Tancredo Fan
I should have taken a blood pressure pill before reading this. Too late now, my blood is boiling. This is absolutely outrageous. Now they won't even have to sneak into the US to freeload, we'll just mail them the checks in Mexico. The inmates truly are running the assylum.
7 posted on 02/19/2003 10:16:17 PM PST by holyscroller (Why are Liberal female media types always ugly to boot?)
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To: holyscroller
You should have also looked for any sort of credibility in the report via the name of the person passing his information on to the reporter...there isn't one.

The Bush administration is negotiating a deal with Mexico to pay SS benefits to people who worked in the US legally, then moved back to Mexico.

This is already being done with several other nations, but Mexico would by far be the largest recipient of payments. The Mexican government pushed for similar benefits for illegal aliens, but the administration refused.

Note the particular choice of words used by the author when he says that the 1996 act had "saved" American taxpayers a certain amount of money.

This money is taken out of people's paychecks who worked here legally, with the understanding that it would be paid back, his phrasing seems to indicate that this is money that belongs to the government, and not to the very people that it is going back to.
8 posted on 02/19/2003 10:25:57 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: NMFXSTC
will give the Mexican government at least $345 billion in Social Security

That $345 billion would go a long way to helping California and Texas with their very large state budget deficits too. Americans no longer count except when it comes to paying taxes, these are some pretty expensive votes!

9 posted on 02/20/2003 11:53:23 AM PST by FITZ
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To: maranatha
The treaty, which is unique in that it provides a foreign government Social Security money even for those of its citizens who have worked illegally in America, may be timed to coincide with the 2004 elections.

Well, Lots of Freepers who are blindly enamored with Bush will continue to ignore his socializing of the US, (Medicare and SSI), his leaving our borders undefended to the happiness of the nightly massive invasion of foreigners. They will continue to praise him for being so much better than Clinton was UNTIL THE BILLS START COMING IN!

Only then will they realize what fools they have been. The billion dollars in Medicare to border hospitals is the closest thing I have seen to foreign aid for Mexico that didn't have to go throught the Committee. Slick move, just as good as a democrat would have done.

He knows that we have short memories and by doing a couple of good publicity moves just before the election all will be forgiven by most Republicans.

10 posted on 12/02/2003 3:37:53 PM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: B4Ranch
He knows that we have short memories and by doing a couple of good publicity moves just before the election all will be forgiven by most Republicans.

And the more clownish the Democrat Presidential candidates act, the more Bush can do this stuff and not fear being rejected by us desperate conservatives at election time.

11 posted on 12/02/2003 3:54:50 PM PST by Lizavetta (Savage was right. Extreme liberalness = mental disorder)
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To: maranatha
If there's anything I hate worse than a bleeeding heart liberal, it's a bruised, bitching turnip.
12 posted on 12/02/2003 4:02:58 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: Lizavetta
Leaving the borders open is, to me, the act of a traitor. Mexico's lower class are flooding into America. Illegals take up one third of our prisons. Domestic debt has piled up to the tune of $35 trillion -- the highest ever, at 3.5 times GDP.

I'll vote third party for sure.

13 posted on 12/02/2003 4:07:55 PM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: hoosierskypilot
The Bush administration has reportedly completed a draft of a treaty between the U.S. and Mexico that will give the Mexican government at least $345 billion in Social Security payments for Mexicans who have worked in the U.S. legally and illegally. The treaty, which is unique in that it provides a foreign government Social Security money even for those of its citizens who have worked illegally in America, may be timed to coincide with the 2004 elections.



This must be stopped!

What the hell is wrong with this guy?
14 posted on 12/02/2003 4:09:31 PM PST by WhiteGuy (I oppose big government. - Paul / Tancredo 2004)
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To: hoosierskypilot
There are no words to define my disgust over the issues relating to illegal aliens. This simply caps a illogical agenda that give those who are criminal trespassers more rights and priveleges than I have a a legal natural born citizen. The liberal socialist leftists are making sure that they know how to exploit every loophole there is and we the good people are left to foot the bill and service the tab! Something absolutely has to be done to recind this evil legislation. I smell a MEXICAN RAT! and most certainly a Chinese one as well! This thread should run off the chart with angry citizens voicing their outrage demanding that this be stopped immediately. We cannot continue to support third world economies to this extent; I demand it STOP NOW! Here is one step farther down the trail; NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION! End FINIS!
15 posted on 12/02/2003 4:24:03 PM PST by winker
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To: hoosierskypilot
Once again I appeal to the citizens to push this thread over the top edge. Flood Washington D.C. with e-mail expressing your outrage over your and my tax money being thrown down a "GREASER HOLE"
16 posted on 12/02/2003 5:26:54 PM PST by winker
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To: hoosierskypilot
I guess someone has to point this out every time one of these articles is posted, but SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is NOT a part of the Social Security program. SSI benefits come from general tax revenues, NOT from Social Security funds. Here's the link:

http://www.ssa.gov/notices/supplemental-security-income/

17 posted on 12/02/2003 6:01:01 PM PST by freedox
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To: hoosierskypilot
I have known about this stinking rotten scam for years. The worst is when well to do Chinese get their parents on this program. Other nationalities too.
18 posted on 12/02/2003 6:24:58 PM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: ysoitanly
Look people, just because they are in our country illegally, doesn't mean they don't shop at Wal-Mart and contribute to our economy. If we could only get another 75 million in here, I'm sure the ecomomy would really pickup. It's good for Wal-Mart, it's good for you.

I suggest we all just go back to work and pay our taxes.

Go Bush!

19 posted on 12/02/2003 6:29:36 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: hoosierskypilot
>>The Bush administration has reportedly completed a draft of a treaty between the U.S. and Mexico that will give the Mexican government at least $345 billion in Social Security payments for Mexicans who have worked in the U.S. legally and illegally. <<

Why would the President of a soverign nation sacrifice the wealth of his own people for the benefit of the people of Mexico? Do you think he wants to destroy public funding of social security once and for all?
20 posted on 12/02/2003 10:59:58 PM PST by Risa
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