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"More Have Died in Afganistan/Iraq Than In 9-11" (Hollywood barf alert)
Japan Today ^ | Tuesday, February 18, 2003 | Chris Betros

Posted on 02/17/2003 10:28:58 PM PST by icwhatudo

"Since 9-11, more people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq than in New York that day — and for not a very good reason."

TOKYO — Wherever actor Viggo Mortensen goes, people ask him about the analogy between the U.S. fight against terrorism and the epic battle between good and evil in the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. The comparison has received a lot of press particularly in the U.S. where some have even gone so far as to suggest Christopher Lee's character — the evil Lord Saruman — looks like Osama bin Laden (does that mean George W Bush is Gandalf?).

During a recent visit to Japan to promote "Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers," the second in the series, the 44-year-old Mortensen was ready for the question, sporting a T-shirt in Japanese that read "No more blood for oil." His co-star, New Zealand actor Karl Urban, who showed up with him, had peace symbols stitched all over his jacket.

"I have not done this sort of thing in connection with one of my movies before, but I don't like my work being misinterpreted," Mortensen said, speaking slowly, sometimes almost inaudibly. "Tolkien wrote the stories during World War II and he himself said then that it shouldn't be seen as a comparison to the war. It is no more allegorical now. It bothered me, so I wanted to say something.

"Since 9-11, more people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq than in New York that day — and for not a very good reason. Yet, you are looked down upon in the U.S. if you recommend dialogue before military action. Our country was founded on the principle of free speech and I say to go ahead with war without openly discussing it is morally wrong and dangerous."

Born in New York City, Mortensen spent much of his youth in Argentina, Venezuela and Denmark. He made his film debut in "Witness" in 1985. Since then, he has alternated his time between the theater and films, often cast as a sleazy or morally ambiguous character in such films as "The Indian Runner" (1991), "Carlito's Way" (1993), "The Prophecy" (1995), "The Portrait of a Lady" (1996), "G.I. Jane" (1997) and "A Perfect Murder" (1998).

His recurring role, as the human warrior Aragorn, in the "Lord of the Rings" films, is his biggest break yet. All three films were shot back to back in New Zealand, and the third will be released in Japan early next year.

It was an awesome task at first, Mortensen recalled. "I feel like I had two directors — Tolkien and Peter Jackson," he said. "The book was my guide and it was a long and difficult shoot. But at least I got favorable reviews at home. My son said I didn't embarrass the family in any way."

For Urban, 30, who is unknown to movie audiences outside of New Zealand, the whole experience was like being in a fantasy world. "I got this phone call out of the blue one day from Peter Jackson asking me if I'd like to be in 'Lord of the Rings.' I have never worked on a film before where the entire crew were walking around with a copy of the book. Everyone, from the lighting and catering staff to the cast, had a copy of Tolkien's book. That's the passion and dedication we had on the set."

Sometimes that passion got the better of them, especially in the big battle scenes. With everyone swinging swords and axes, things got pretty rough. "I broke a tooth and a few other limbs," said Mortensen. "The shoot took several months and the more tired we got, the more risks we took. You slip, you fall, you get cuts and bruises. That's the price you pay when you want it to look real."

To hone their sword-fighting skills, the cast got some tips from a real movie pro — Bob Anderson, whose students go all the way back to Errol Flynn, a name Urban admitted with some embarrassment was unfamiliar to him. "Then Bob's assistant said to me, 'Well, you might know him as Darth Vader in the fight scenes in the 'Star Wars' movies," said Urban.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiwar; hollywood; rings; viggo
Remember back when people walked on eggshells when refering to 9-11? Has this hollywood ass no shame?
1 posted on 02/17/2003 10:28:58 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: icwhatudo
Well, there are more terrorists and Taleban soldiers than there were victims of September 11th. Is this difficult to understand?
2 posted on 02/17/2003 10:31:39 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: icwhatudo
Since 9-11, more people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq than in New York

Yep, and all the deaths have been caused by either Saddam or Osama, including those who died on 911.

3 posted on 02/17/2003 10:50:14 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: ping jockey
The real question is ,"Has the requisite 1000 towel heads for each life lost on 9/11 been reached yet?".

No Not even close

5 posted on 02/17/2003 10:56:51 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (An American Fellowship of Freedom loving Conservatives..... <*[[[[[><)
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To: icwhatudo
Since 9-11, more people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq than in New York that day...

Heck, we're just getting started.

6 posted on 02/17/2003 11:00:45 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ( ;)
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To: Jeff Chandler
"Since 9-11, more people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq than in New York that day — and for not a very good reason."

I'm supposed to feel bad about this...?

7 posted on 02/17/2003 11:06:06 PM PST by freebilly (Why do Republicans play hardball like little girls...?)
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To: icwhatudo
Dear Viggo-

Since you are done shooting Lord of the Rings you may go be a human sheild and I wouldn't mind.

PS - Tolkein was a Christian.
8 posted on 02/17/2003 11:11:54 PM PST by shadowman99
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To: icwhatudo
More died in Japan than at Pearl Harbour.

Whats thier point?

9 posted on 02/17/2003 11:23:24 PM PST by Kay Soze
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To: icwhatudo
Mortensen said, speaking slowly, sometimes almost inaudibly.

It seems fairly obvious that, though a serviceable actor, Viggo is a raging imbecile.

10 posted on 02/17/2003 11:25:08 PM PST by vikingchick
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To: icwhatudo
I'll never understand this line of "logic." By that sort of reasoning, the U.S. was the "bad guy" in World War II because more Nazis died than did Americans.

But at the core of all this is a glaring falsehood perpetuated by the Left that we've killed more people in Afghanistan than were killed on 9/11. Fortunately, this piece of rubbish has been soundly debunked.

http://www.stats.org/newsletters/0203/afghan.htm

-Jay

11 posted on 02/18/2003 12:19:20 AM PST by Jay D. Dyson (I have no sense of diplomacy. I consider that a character asset.)
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To: icwhatudo
I know it seems like a poor ratio but hold on, we're coming to get them and we'll raise our numbers significantly. Keep the hope alive.
12 posted on 02/18/2003 12:22:36 AM PST by Oreo Kookey
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To: icwhatudo
Since 9-11, more people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq than in New York that day

And if this is true, so what? Hasn't this numbskull considered the possibility that at least some of those who died in Afghanistan were preparing to carry out the next September 11?

13 posted on 02/18/2003 12:51:32 AM PST by Rainbow Rising (What kind of a stupid name is Viggo, anyway?)
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To: icwhatudo
IMNSHO, he sucked in the movies anyway and he will hopefully go back into obscurity.

So much for seeing the third film, I'll be damned if I hand any money over to support these useless idiots.
14 posted on 02/18/2003 4:20:47 AM PST by zx2dragon
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To: icwhatudo
"I broke a tooth and a few other limbs," said Mortensen.

Kind of says it all...
15 posted on 02/18/2003 7:23:14 AM PST by dyed_in_the_wool (I am Jack's smirking revenge.)
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To: icwhatudo
>>Since 9-11, more people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq than in New York that day<<

I certainly hope so-at least that's a start.

16 posted on 02/18/2003 8:20:08 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: icwhatudo
Since 9-11, more people have died in Afghanistan and Iraq than in New York that day — and for not a very good reason."

Who's killing people in Iraq? (couldn't be Saddam could it?) We haven't started dropping bombs... yet.

17 posted on 02/18/2003 8:25:47 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: icwhatudo
Who the hell is Viggo Mortensen?

Why should I give a rat's ass what he thinks about foreign affairs?
18 posted on 02/18/2003 8:29:12 AM PST by borkrules
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