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The trial balloon: Wesley Clark [Another freerepublic.com scoop]
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Posted on 02/16/2003 11:00:12 PM PST by VaBthang4

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To: Howlin; VaBthang4
If that one statement doesn't prove Terry McAuliffe is crazy, nothing ever will.

LOL Bump.

41 posted on 02/17/2003 12:03:27 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: piasa
I believe he was.
42 posted on 02/17/2003 12:03:45 AM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Howlin
General Clark's Choice -California GOP Wooing Retired General Wesley Clark
43 posted on 02/17/2003 12:07:46 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: leadpenny
Isn't it odd how the same names keep popping up over and over with regard to the Clintons over the years?

I know we joke about it, but the phrase "government in waiting" makes a lot of sense to me -- just based on what we read and discuss on this forum.

I'm trying to remember the last time we were wrong about something.....LOL.

44 posted on 02/17/2003 12:09:39 AM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Balata
I know.
There are other parties.
He didnt admit that he was a Democrat.
45 posted on 02/17/2003 12:10:44 AM PST by VaBthang4 (c)
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To: Howlin; piasa
From that thread

To: ewing

If I'm not mistaken General Wesley Clark was the commander of the Army's Delta Force unit that was involved in the Waco Tx masacre. That proved to the Clintons that he was a good soldier and was then promoted to command the NATO action against the Christians in Yugoslavia. Again, my facts may not be totally accurate but if they are, the GOP as well as the Dem party will have much to explain by supporing this guy. If anyone has additional info on Gen. Clark's involvement in Waco, please post it.


8 posted on 01/11/2003 6:08 PM EST by drypowder



HE WAS INVOLVED WITH WACO???
46 posted on 02/17/2003 12:10:53 AM PST by Mo1 (25 + inches of snow? ..... Where the heck is that Global Warming they promised us?)
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To: All
Man alive, don't Freepers ever sleep? I just pulled a marathon session to do ours, and my parents', taxes. Got everything finished up, stopped by "for must a minute" to see if some intrepid sole from the other side of the world had any foreign news, and Lord Have Mercy, the board is flying! At 3AM Eastern!

Back on topic, re the interview with Russert: I thought Clark came across as sleazy in a Clintonian sort of way, which means a more than fair share of the populace will likely just eat him up.

47 posted on 02/17/2003 12:11:22 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: VaBthang4
You're right .. he didn't seem to want to admit that .. but it was sure dang clear he wasn't going to run as a Republican
48 posted on 02/17/2003 12:12:12 AM PST by Mo1 (25 + inches of snow? ..... Where the heck is that Global Warming they promised us?)
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To: Howlin
Yep - probably best for private msg.
49 posted on 02/17/2003 12:13:07 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: Mo1
http://www.brasscheck.com/yugoslavia/clarkatwaco.html

"General Wesley Clark was involved in the siege and final assault near Waco, Texas that killed, by a combination of toxic gas and fire, at least 82 people including some three dozen women, children and infants.

As outlandish as this claim may seem, it's a reasonable conclusion that can be drawn by any fair minded person who takes the time to examine the evidence. Further, there is substantial circumstantial evidence that, Clark, in addition to acting as a tactical consultant, may, in fact, have been the prime architect and commander of the entire operation."

50 posted on 02/17/2003 12:15:45 AM PST by VaBthang4 (c)
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To: VaBthang4
Here you go. The transcripts are HERE.

MR. RUSSERT: ...will you run for president of the United States?
GEN. CLARK: Well, I haven’t made any decision on that. A lot of people are talking to me on it. I’ve said I’m not a candidate. I haven’t taken any political money. I don’t have any paid political consultants. I’m not even a member of a party, at this stage. But I am a concerned citizen because I’ve seen the policy go progressively away from the focus on what I consider the principal threat to this country...
MR. RUSSERT: Are you thinking about it?
GEN. CLARK: ...and into this...
MR. RUSSERT: You’re thinking about it?
GEN. CLARK: Well, yeah, sure, I’ve thought about it. A lot of people have come to me and asked me to think very seriously about it.
MR. RUSSERT: Would you run as a Democrat?
GEN. CLARK: Well, I haven’t declared a party, but, you know, it would be hard to conceive of running as a Republican, only because the administration’s policy is what’s causing me to have these concerns.
MR. RUSSERT: Would you accept vice presidential nominations?
GEN. CLARK: No, I’m not going to get in—I haven’t even thought about things like this.
MR. RUSSERT: Jerry McAtee, the AFL-CIO, said you may announce within a few weeks?
GEN. CLARK: Well, I don’t know where he came—I don’t have a time line.
MR. RUSSERT: But it’s fair to say you’re thinking about it?
GEN. CLARK: Well, I have thought about it. And a lot of people have asked me to think about it. But, you know, for me, it’s about ideas. It’s not about candidacies. I mean, we’re at a turning point in American history here. We’re about to embark on an operation that’s going to put us in a colonial position in the Middle East following Britain, following the ottomans. It’s a huge change for the American people and for what this country stands for. And this is the 21st century we’re in. We need to have this dialogue, and we’ve been really late getting to it. And that’s really what—having that dialogue is what I’ve been about for the last year, going around the country, talking to people, finding out what they believe about our country’s future, sharing some of my experiences with them.
MR. RUSSERT: Well, we will stay tuned. We hope if you are going to announce, you’ll come back and talk to us about it.

51 posted on 02/17/2003 12:19:15 AM PST by Balata (FReepers Rock!)
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To: HAL9000
Thanks!
52 posted on 02/17/2003 12:19:37 AM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Howlin; VaBthang4
He also was forced out as NATO CinC (with Clinton's help) a few months early under a cloud. Ralston replaced him, I believe.
53 posted on 02/17/2003 12:20:16 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: VaBthang4
The Liberals are attempting to see if they can slip him in under the America populations "anti-anything related to Clinton" radar in a desperate bid to find anyone who’ll resonate

Make no mistake - - it isn't "the Liberals" who are throwing this crap against the wall.... it is the Clintons themselves. I firmly believe that the plan is to so muddy the Democrat primary that no single rat will go into the convention with anything resembling a mandate or a consensus. The Clintons want turmoil, confusion, and division.

And who do you suppose will be drafted to ride to the rescue?

54 posted on 02/17/2003 12:22:05 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Balata
We’re about to embark on an operation that’s going to put us in a colonial position in the Middle East following Britain, following the ottomans. It’s a huge change for the American people and for what this country stands for.

Is he under the impression that we're out of Kosovo?

55 posted on 02/17/2003 12:25:17 AM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Mo1
Read the whole thread before you post people's hearsay- I believe that post was incorrect. he was involved but he wasn't Delta. there's better stuff than that on the guy!
56 posted on 02/17/2003 12:25:50 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Howlin
Geez .. there seems to be a whole bunch of old threads on Clark

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/search?s=Army+General+Wesley+Clark+&ok=Search&m=any&o=score
57 posted on 02/17/2003 12:26:20 AM PST by Mo1 (25 + inches of snow? ..... Where the heck is that Global Warming they promised us?)
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To: VaBthang4; Mo1; leadpenny; HAL9000
I hate to use Newsmax as a source, BUT they are pretty good at copying other sources!

Saturday, Jan. 4, 2003

Gen. Wesley Clark for President?

The Progressive Review, an admittedly liberal but excellent e-mail report (we read it every day at NewsMax) warns of Wesley Clark, who is reported to be thinking about running for president.

In examining the background of this man who would be president, the Review learned that Clark is a longtime friend of Clinton - a fact that helped his rise to the top. He has also been employed by the Stephens Group, part of the Stephens family empire that helped to launch Clinton's career and keep him in the 1992 primaries despite cash problems.

According to the Review, Clark commanded Fort Hood during the time it provided illegal troops and weapons used in the Waco massacre.

On Aug. 3, 1999, the Guardian wrote:

"No sooner are we told by Britain's top generals that the Russians played a crucial role in ending the west's war against Yugoslavia than we learn that if NATO's supreme commander, the American General Wesley Clark, had had his way, British paratroopers would have stormed Pristina airport threatening to unleash the most frightening crisis with Moscow since the end of the cold war. 'I'm not going to start the third world war for you,' General Sir Mike Jackson, commander of the internationalK-For peacekeeping force, is reported to have told Gen. Clark when he refused to accept an order to send assault troops to prevent Russian troops from taking over the airfield of Kosovo's provincial capital. ... Mary Robinson, the UN human rights commissioner, said NATO's bombing campaign had lost its 'moral purpose.'"

And on Nov. 12, 1999, at the beginning of the Kosovo conflict, Counterpunch delved into the military career of Gen. Clark and discovered that his meteoric rise through the ranks was the result of "the successful manipulation of appearances: faking the results of combat exercises, greasing to superiors and other practices common to the general officer corps. We correctly predicted that the unspinnable realities of a real war would cause him to become unhinged. Given that Clark attempted to bomb the CNN bureau in Belgrade and ordered the British General Michael Jackson to engage Russian troops in combat at the end of the war, we feel events amply vindicated our forecast.

"With the end of hostilities it has become clear even to Clark that most people, apart from some fanatical members of the war party in the White House and State Department, consider the general, as one Pentagon official puts it, 'a horse's ass.' Defense Secretary William Cohen is known to loathe him, and has seen to it that the Hammer of the Serbs will be relieved of the NATO command two months early."

Wrote columnist Robert Novak: "Members of Congress who, during their spring recess, met in Brussels with Gen. Wesley Clark, the NATO supreme commander, were startled by his bellicosity. According to the lawmakers, Clark suggested the best way to handle Russia's supply of oil to Yugoslavia would be aerial bombardment of the pipeline that runs through Hungary. He also proposed bombing Russian warships that enter the battle zone."

On April 20, 1999, columnist and much-decorated Col. David Hackworth wrote that Clark, "[k]nown by those who've served with him as the 'Ultimate Perfumed Prince,' [is] far more comfortable in a drawing room discussing political theories than hunkering down in the trenches where bullets fly and soldiers die."

Counterpunch described Clark as "'The poster child for everything that is wrong with the GO (general officer) corps,' exclaims one colonel, who has had occasion to observe Clark in action, citing, among other examples, his command of the 1st Cavalry Division at Fort Hood from 1992 to 1994."

Clark, of course, would run as a Democrat.

Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics:
Waco

58 posted on 02/17/2003 12:26:58 AM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: piasa
Sorry .. you are right
59 posted on 02/17/2003 12:27:40 AM PST by Mo1 (25 + inches of snow? ..... Where the heck is that Global Warming they promised us?)
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To: Balata
Maybe I am missing something. Have you read my posts?

Wesley Clark didnt admit that he is a Democrat.

He is clearly a Democrat who has directly served a Democratic President, has given to a Democratic candidate and now works as a consultant for a Clinton fundraiser.

If you could please, stop being redundant.

60 posted on 02/17/2003 12:27:43 AM PST by VaBthang4 (c)
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