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HaHaHaHaHaHa! Totally ruining any chance the liberals had to begin with. Al Franken....HaHaHaHaHa....sorry, I just cannot stop!
1 posted on 02/16/2003 4:13:39 PM PST by AdA$tra
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This idea sounds like it could cause major competition for an audience. NPR's audience. I don't think that's what they had in mind, but it will be the end result. I see advertisers running away faster than a Democrat from a crime scene when this libs station reps show up.
84 posted on 02/17/2003 5:18:55 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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BWAHAHAHAHA! Why don't they hire DOnahue, I heard he's looking for a job. ROFL! These morons don't get that you can't buy a market when you have no product to sell and no buyers.

Seriously, here is the RATS idea of political humor....(Scroll down to 1.13.03)

Liberal Radio Is Planned by Rich Group of Democrats

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/17/business/media/17DEM.html?ex=1046062800&en=33aba5838ec6e602&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

By JIM RUTENBERG

A group of wealthy Democratic donors is planning to start a liberal radio network to counterbalance the conservative tenor of radio programs like "The Rush Limbaugh Show."

The group, led by Sheldon and Anita Drobny, venture capitalists from Chicago who have been major campaign donors for Bill Clinton and Al Gore, is in talks with Al Franken, the comedian and author of "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot." It hopes to enlist other well-known entertainers with a liberal point of view for a 14-hour, daily slate of commercial programs that would heavily rely on comedy and political satire.

The plan faces several business and content challenges, from finding a network of radio stations to buy the program to overcoming the poor track record of liberal radio shows. But it is the most ambitious undertaking yet to come from liberal Democrats who believe they are overshadowed in the political propaganda wars by conservative radio and television personalities.

The concern has been around for years: Hillary Rodham Clinton first mentioned a "vast, right-wing conspiracy" in 1998. But the sentiment has taken on new urgency with the rise to the top of the cable news ratings of the Fox News Channel, considered by many to have a conservative slant, and the Republicans' gaining control of the Senate in November. Such events have spurred many wealthy Democrats to explore investments in possible, liberal-skewing media ventures. New campaign finance rules that restrict giving opportunities also gave them further incentive.

The new liberal radio network is initially being financed by the Paradigm Group, of which the Drobnys are the principal partners. Ms. Drobny is the chairwoman of the venture, which is being called AnShell Media L.L.C. Jon Sinton, a longtime, Atlanta-based radio executive, will be its chief executive. He helped start the nationally syndicated radio program of Jim Hightower, the former Texas agriculture commissioner. Liberals had hoped that would be their answer to Mr. Limbaugh, but it was canceled shortly after its start in the mid-1990's.

The failure of Mr. Hightower's show supported the notion of many in radio that liberal hosts do not have what it takes to become successful and entertaining hosts: the fire-and-brimstone manner and a ready-made audience alienated by the mainstream news media it perceives to be full of liberal bias.

Mr. Sinton said the new venture would seek to disprove not only those who doubt liberal hosts can make it in radio, but also those who believe that success in radio depends on an alliance with one of the handful of major distributors or station groups.

The group said it was prepared to go it alone, selling its programming to the individual radio stations rather than go through a middleman. It has an initial investment of $10 million, which radio analysts said was enough to start up. Ms. Drobny said the cash would be placed in a fund that she hopes to grow to at least $200 million within the next year, which she hopes to use to finance other media ventures like the acquisition of radio stations and television production.

"The object of the programming is to be progressive and make a statement that counters this din from the right," Mr. Sinton said. "But we have a solid business plan that shows a hole in the market."

Many conservatives who assert the news media in general is infused with liberal bias say the premise of a liberal radio network is silly to begin with. But liberal Democrats say even if a liberal bias does exist, the mainstream news media strives for balance and fair play. They say their concern is that there are far fewer successful, outright partisan voices on the left than there are on the right.

"I feel like there's a monologue out there," Ms. Drobny said. "I just had this tremendous feeling with great passion that we had to make sure we're heard and make sure having a dialogue in this country of ours."

The list of successful conservative radio hosts is, in fact, fairly long Rush Limbaugh; Sean Hannity; Michael Savage; Michael Reagan. And there is no equivalent list of liberals. Past attempts, such as the programs of Mr. Hightower and Mario Cuomo, have failed.

Some radio executives said they simply did not believe liberal radio could become good business. Among them was Kraig T. Kitchen, chief executive of Premiere Radio Networks, one of the nation's largest radio syndication arms with the programs of Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Reagan and Dr. Laura Schlessinger, among others. Though Mr. Kitchin said he was a conservative, he also said he would have pursued liberal programs had he thought there was money in them. He ascribes to the popular view in the industry that liberal hosts present issues in too much complexity to be very entertaining — while addressing a diffuse audience that has varying views.

"Individuals who are liberal in their viewpoints can be all-encompassing," he said. "It's very hard to define liberalism, unlike how easy it is to define conservatism. So, as a result, it doesn't evoke the same kind of passion as conservative ideologies do."

Mr. Sinton said he thought past attempts failed because they were not properly executed. He said he believed a big problem for Mr. Hightower was that his program was sandwiched into a schedule crammed with conservatives. "It is very hard to succeed when you throw liberal programming between bookends of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity," he said. "That violates expectations of the listener."

This is why he said he was proposing a full slate of liberally skewing programming with morning, afternoon and early evening shows featuring hosts with as many big names in entertainment as possible.

"This side has failed by going at Rush, and trying to be Rush — you're not going to beat him at his game," Mr. Sinton said. "What really makes this work is tapping into Hollywood and New York and having a huge entertainment component, where political sarcasm is every bit as effective as Rush Limbaugh is at bashing you over the head."

Mr. Sinton acknowledged that his biggest challenge was in getting national distribution for the network. He said he would seek to strike deals with underperforming radio stations in major markets.

Analysts said that while the plan might seem difficult to achieve, it is not impossible. "It is going to be trickier in the top-10 markets, easier in the middle markets, but it will be possible," said Jonathan Jacoby, a radio industry analyst for SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. "There is a case that if they have the right product, they will be able to find distribution."

Talent, of course, will be key, Mr. Sinton acknowledged. A deal with Mr. Franken, the comedian, would help greatly in luring other big names, as well as in gaining distribution. He said he envisioned a daily program featuring Mr. Franken perhaps in the early afternoons (around the same time as "The Rush Limbaugh Show").

A representative for Mr. Franken, Henry Reisch of the William Morris Agency, said Mr. Franken was seriously considering the offer, and was mostly focusing on whether he could handle the commitment of a daily radio program. Judging from his comments as a guest last month on Phil Donahue's program on MSNBC, Mr. Franken would probably take a far different approach from that of Mr. Limbaugh. "I think the audience isn't there for a liberal Rush," he said. "Because I think liberals don't want to hear that kind of demagoguery."

85 posted on 02/17/2003 5:43:55 AM PST by finnman69
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I don't care WHAT they establish, as long as NOT ONE CENT of my tax dollars go to support it.
87 posted on 02/17/2003 6:17:39 AM PST by FrogMom (Amen.)
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I love watching liberals lose money. They already have NPR...I suppose that, being liberals, they'll have to FORCE us to support this new venture...
88 posted on 02/17/2003 6:35:05 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: AdA$tra
Will it be called NPR 2??
89 posted on 02/17/2003 6:40:03 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Bring on the buck toothed moron!
A face made for radio!
90 posted on 02/17/2003 6:42:44 AM PST by right way right
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Franken is just the Trojan Horse. I've learned it's wise to never underestimate your opposition. You have to read carefully thru the second page of the story to find it, but here's the REAL plan, and it could work:

This is why he said he was proposing a full slate of liberally skewing programming with morning, afternoon and early evening shows featuring hosts with as many big names in entertainment as possible.

This side has failed by going at Rush, and trying to be Rush — you're not going to beat him at his game," Mr. Sinton said. "What really makes this work is tapping into Hollywood and New York and having a huge entertainment component, where political sarcasm is every bit as effective as Rush Limbaugh is at bashing you over the head.

Hollywood biggies and liberal stand-up comedians have been the Left's shock troops since the 1960s -- and don't think it's been accidental. It works. Sadly, America seems to be mesmerized by Hollywood.

93 posted on 02/17/2003 9:05:13 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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Al Frankin is a big hate speech guy and I hope he has full creative control over such a network.

I'm sure such a new network would be as successful as his last movie...What ever it's name was!

I would almost donate to get that network started, because it would create a whole bunch of new Conservatives in a hurry.
Just think about it, actual topics discussed that Democrats have been only willing to whisper about in closets for years as their real agenda.

This network will OUT the true intent of Democrats and therefore act as the catalyst to unseat quite a few in future elections.

Plus once the extreme left try and gain control, it's completely over for the current version of the Democrat Party!!!
103 posted on 02/17/2003 8:55:31 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Since Rush lost weight, it is pretty obvious that Al Franken is the Big Fat Idiot.
106 posted on 02/17/2003 10:50:44 PM PST by doug from upland (May the Clintons live their remaining days in orange jumpsuits sharing the same 6 x 9 cell.)
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I am so happy that the libbies are going to get their own talk radio shows. First, they will waste millions of their own dollars on a failing enterprise. This will be good so they will have less money to spend on electing the Dimocrats. Then--because they are actually going to have to talk to real people (assuming they allow call-ins)--they will be fully exposed for their Socialist/Communist/Utopians ideologies because they will not be able to hide behind the skirts of "news reporters." It will be the same old diatribe--America is bad and wrong; government owes you a living; anyone who hurts your feelings should and can be sued; the rich need to be punished; ad infinitum ad nauseum. People will get sick of these guys real fast because they have no substance and no one will want to be damaged by the mental disorder known as liberalism. Go for it, Al baby!
108 posted on 02/17/2003 11:03:23 PM PST by DennisR
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Well at least they ain't asking the goobermint to pay for it. On second thought, the goobermint is already paying for liberal radio- NPR.
109 posted on 02/17/2003 11:07:19 PM PST by mafree (RIP Daddy and Momma- thanks for giving me the freedom to think for myself)
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bump
111 posted on 02/18/2003 3:00:17 AM PST by GOPJ
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Al Franken??? Yeeeeeeeeeahhhhhhhhh right... he once called Rush a fat idiot? Never heard from him again. I hope the liberals flush their millions down the loo for there is no free market for a liberal radio network. If there was, it wouldn't be necessary for them to cater to a non-existent demand for liberal bilge that isn't and will never be there.
112 posted on 02/18/2003 3:03:05 AM PST by goldstategop
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Some forms of media require that you shut down your mind, and other forms require active participation on the part of the target audience. Bill Gates talked about this openly, once. Some forms of media require that you shut down your mind, and other forms require active participation on the part of the target audience. Bill Gates talked about this openly, once.

TV works best if your mind is more or less shut down. A cathartic release comes from this mind OFF process, which partly explains why tired people flock to TV. Watching TV also puts the audience into a state of mind in which messages enter their mind without being scrutinized, which is the whole premise for TV advertising. It also explains why Dan Rather and Geraldo Rivera somehow remain employed.

The TV format is very, very quick. Very few viewers will stick around for the time necessary to really build the foundation required to present an effective ARGUMENT. Images, yes --TV can do that. Somebody slipping on a banana peel, yes. A buxom woman jumping on a trampoline, yes. LAPD is evil because here you see a baton strike Rodney Kind, yes.

But a whole different time line is required to convince a person about the rightness of some new course of action.

Radio listeners have that kind of patience. They must more or less listen to the beginning of a sentence, the middle, and the end. And they must listen for at least 15 minutes to get anything out of the experience at all.

Leftishly-inclined propaganda only works on people who can't think, on people who can but chose not to, or on people who for whatever reason don't bother to really pay attention to the message for any real length of time. As long as the audience doesn't pay attention to liberal agitprop, it WORKS.

So you see, the liberal message WILL NOT work on a 3-hour talk-radio format, in which the REAL PERSONALITY AND ASSUMPTIONS of the host invariably leak out.

An important part of liberal idealogy is that people can't take care of themselves.

Who wants to hear THAT? But still, I relish the day the left squanders its resources on trying to get into the Talk Show format.

When your lead-footed enemy announces he thinks he'll go for a dip, just smile, grope about for your camera, and hand him his swimming-trunks...

113 posted on 02/18/2003 11:19:37 AM PST by gaijin
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