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LIBERAL MONEY DONORS DESIRE TALKRADIO NETWORK; UPSTART MAY FEATURE AL FRANKEN... DEVELOPING...
Drudge Report ^ | 2.16.2003 | Drudge Report...Developing

Posted on 02/16/2003 4:13:39 PM PST by AdA$tra

REPORT: LIBERAL MONEY DONORS DESIRE TALKRADIO NETWORK; UPSTART MAY FEATURE AL FRANKEN... DEVELOPING...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alfranken; talkradio
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To: Valin
Just clicked on your link to the NYTimes story. My first visit to their site (and last). Amazingly and most fitting, in the sidebar next to the story, there is a link to the 'New York Times Company Store' where they are selling...get this...

The following photos of their heros:

Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, with his shoe before him, at the United Nations, 1960

Vladmir Lenin at Rally in Red Square, circa 1920

Russian Imperial soliders joining the revolution, Petrograd, 1917

Leon Trotsky reviewing the troops, circa 1921

Pinch Salzberger just can't let it go.

Winston said it best...

"The day will come when it will be recognized without doubt throughout the civilized world that the strangling of Bolshevism at birth would have been an untold blessing to the human race."

That day is coming Pinchy...

81 posted on 02/17/2003 1:04:30 AM PST by Knuckle Sandwich Combo
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To: AdA$tra
Perhaps they'll shift more funds which would have been used for elections?

We should be encouraging this big time.

Who do we write? Tell them "THIS IS A GREAT IDEA!!!" Spend away boys...

82 posted on 02/17/2003 2:46:18 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: AdA$tra
goof ball delux
83 posted on 02/17/2003 2:56:44 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: AdA$tra
This idea sounds like it could cause major competition for an audience. NPR's audience. I don't think that's what they had in mind, but it will be the end result. I see advertisers running away faster than a Democrat from a crime scene when this libs station reps show up.
84 posted on 02/17/2003 5:18:55 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: AdA$tra
BWAHAHAHAHA! Why don't they hire DOnahue, I heard he's looking for a job. ROFL! These morons don't get that you can't buy a market when you have no product to sell and no buyers.

Seriously, here is the RATS idea of political humor....(Scroll down to 1.13.03)

Liberal Radio Is Planned by Rich Group of Democrats

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/17/business/media/17DEM.html?ex=1046062800&en=33aba5838ec6e602&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

By JIM RUTENBERG

A group of wealthy Democratic donors is planning to start a liberal radio network to counterbalance the conservative tenor of radio programs like "The Rush Limbaugh Show."

The group, led by Sheldon and Anita Drobny, venture capitalists from Chicago who have been major campaign donors for Bill Clinton and Al Gore, is in talks with Al Franken, the comedian and author of "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot." It hopes to enlist other well-known entertainers with a liberal point of view for a 14-hour, daily slate of commercial programs that would heavily rely on comedy and political satire.

The plan faces several business and content challenges, from finding a network of radio stations to buy the program to overcoming the poor track record of liberal radio shows. But it is the most ambitious undertaking yet to come from liberal Democrats who believe they are overshadowed in the political propaganda wars by conservative radio and television personalities.

The concern has been around for years: Hillary Rodham Clinton first mentioned a "vast, right-wing conspiracy" in 1998. But the sentiment has taken on new urgency with the rise to the top of the cable news ratings of the Fox News Channel, considered by many to have a conservative slant, and the Republicans' gaining control of the Senate in November. Such events have spurred many wealthy Democrats to explore investments in possible, liberal-skewing media ventures. New campaign finance rules that restrict giving opportunities also gave them further incentive.

The new liberal radio network is initially being financed by the Paradigm Group, of which the Drobnys are the principal partners. Ms. Drobny is the chairwoman of the venture, which is being called AnShell Media L.L.C. Jon Sinton, a longtime, Atlanta-based radio executive, will be its chief executive. He helped start the nationally syndicated radio program of Jim Hightower, the former Texas agriculture commissioner. Liberals had hoped that would be their answer to Mr. Limbaugh, but it was canceled shortly after its start in the mid-1990's.

The failure of Mr. Hightower's show supported the notion of many in radio that liberal hosts do not have what it takes to become successful and entertaining hosts: the fire-and-brimstone manner and a ready-made audience alienated by the mainstream news media it perceives to be full of liberal bias.

Mr. Sinton said the new venture would seek to disprove not only those who doubt liberal hosts can make it in radio, but also those who believe that success in radio depends on an alliance with one of the handful of major distributors or station groups.

The group said it was prepared to go it alone, selling its programming to the individual radio stations rather than go through a middleman. It has an initial investment of $10 million, which radio analysts said was enough to start up. Ms. Drobny said the cash would be placed in a fund that she hopes to grow to at least $200 million within the next year, which she hopes to use to finance other media ventures like the acquisition of radio stations and television production.

"The object of the programming is to be progressive and make a statement that counters this din from the right," Mr. Sinton said. "But we have a solid business plan that shows a hole in the market."

Many conservatives who assert the news media in general is infused with liberal bias say the premise of a liberal radio network is silly to begin with. But liberal Democrats say even if a liberal bias does exist, the mainstream news media strives for balance and fair play. They say their concern is that there are far fewer successful, outright partisan voices on the left than there are on the right.

"I feel like there's a monologue out there," Ms. Drobny said. "I just had this tremendous feeling with great passion that we had to make sure we're heard and make sure having a dialogue in this country of ours."

The list of successful conservative radio hosts is, in fact, fairly long Rush Limbaugh; Sean Hannity; Michael Savage; Michael Reagan. And there is no equivalent list of liberals. Past attempts, such as the programs of Mr. Hightower and Mario Cuomo, have failed.

Some radio executives said they simply did not believe liberal radio could become good business. Among them was Kraig T. Kitchen, chief executive of Premiere Radio Networks, one of the nation's largest radio syndication arms with the programs of Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Reagan and Dr. Laura Schlessinger, among others. Though Mr. Kitchin said he was a conservative, he also said he would have pursued liberal programs had he thought there was money in them. He ascribes to the popular view in the industry that liberal hosts present issues in too much complexity to be very entertaining — while addressing a diffuse audience that has varying views.

"Individuals who are liberal in their viewpoints can be all-encompassing," he said. "It's very hard to define liberalism, unlike how easy it is to define conservatism. So, as a result, it doesn't evoke the same kind of passion as conservative ideologies do."

Mr. Sinton said he thought past attempts failed because they were not properly executed. He said he believed a big problem for Mr. Hightower was that his program was sandwiched into a schedule crammed with conservatives. "It is very hard to succeed when you throw liberal programming between bookends of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity," he said. "That violates expectations of the listener."

This is why he said he was proposing a full slate of liberally skewing programming with morning, afternoon and early evening shows featuring hosts with as many big names in entertainment as possible.

"This side has failed by going at Rush, and trying to be Rush — you're not going to beat him at his game," Mr. Sinton said. "What really makes this work is tapping into Hollywood and New York and having a huge entertainment component, where political sarcasm is every bit as effective as Rush Limbaugh is at bashing you over the head."

Mr. Sinton acknowledged that his biggest challenge was in getting national distribution for the network. He said he would seek to strike deals with underperforming radio stations in major markets.

Analysts said that while the plan might seem difficult to achieve, it is not impossible. "It is going to be trickier in the top-10 markets, easier in the middle markets, but it will be possible," said Jonathan Jacoby, a radio industry analyst for SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. "There is a case that if they have the right product, they will be able to find distribution."

Talent, of course, will be key, Mr. Sinton acknowledged. A deal with Mr. Franken, the comedian, would help greatly in luring other big names, as well as in gaining distribution. He said he envisioned a daily program featuring Mr. Franken perhaps in the early afternoons (around the same time as "The Rush Limbaugh Show").

A representative for Mr. Franken, Henry Reisch of the William Morris Agency, said Mr. Franken was seriously considering the offer, and was mostly focusing on whether he could handle the commitment of a daily radio program. Judging from his comments as a guest last month on Phil Donahue's program on MSNBC, Mr. Franken would probably take a far different approach from that of Mr. Limbaugh. "I think the audience isn't there for a liberal Rush," he said. "Because I think liberals don't want to hear that kind of demagoguery."

85 posted on 02/17/2003 5:43:55 AM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
This: "This side has failed by going at Rush, and trying to be Rush — you're not going to beat him at his game," Mr. Sinton said. "What really makes this work is tapping into Hollywood and New York and having a huge entertainment component, where political sarcasm is every bit as effective as Rush Limbaugh is at bashing you over the head."

appears to be how they are going to go about it. If so, I think it is ironic because it is just a mirror image of the current media. Will anyone be able to tell the difference between this radio network and Oprah! and Entertainment Tonight (or ABC News for that matter). Ergo, they will be competing against themselves rather than going after the vast market that listens to Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, et. al. My point is that this approach may "win minds" but it won't change hearts or fire people up if that is indeed their ponit. It is just more of the same old, same old.

86 posted on 02/17/2003 6:01:00 AM PST by jhofmann
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To: AdA$tra
I don't care WHAT they establish, as long as NOT ONE CENT of my tax dollars go to support it.
87 posted on 02/17/2003 6:17:39 AM PST by FrogMom (Amen.)
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To: AdA$tra
I love watching liberals lose money. They already have NPR...I suppose that, being liberals, they'll have to FORCE us to support this new venture...
88 posted on 02/17/2003 6:35:05 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: AdA$tra
Will it be called NPR 2??
89 posted on 02/17/2003 6:40:03 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: AdA$tra
Bring on the buck toothed moron!
A face made for radio!
90 posted on 02/17/2003 6:42:44 AM PST by right way right
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To: finnman69
Democrats say even if a liberal bias does exist, the mainstream news media strives for balance and fair play.

If that is the case, I'd like to ask them what is the difference between Susan Molinari and George Steponallofus?

91 posted on 02/17/2003 6:52:33 AM PST by saminfl
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To: finnman69
"Because I think liberals don't want to hear that kind of demagoguery."

. . .funny how the nail they hit is the one on their own head. . .

Demagoguery? Thy name is Liberal. . .

92 posted on 02/17/2003 7:43:37 AM PST by cricket
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To: AdA$tra; everyone
Franken is just the Trojan Horse. I've learned it's wise to never underestimate your opposition. You have to read carefully thru the second page of the story to find it, but here's the REAL plan, and it could work:

This is why he said he was proposing a full slate of liberally skewing programming with morning, afternoon and early evening shows featuring hosts with as many big names in entertainment as possible.

This side has failed by going at Rush, and trying to be Rush — you're not going to beat him at his game," Mr. Sinton said. "What really makes this work is tapping into Hollywood and New York and having a huge entertainment component, where political sarcasm is every bit as effective as Rush Limbaugh is at bashing you over the head.

Hollywood biggies and liberal stand-up comedians have been the Left's shock troops since the 1960s -- and don't think it's been accidental. It works. Sadly, America seems to be mesmerized by Hollywood.

93 posted on 02/17/2003 9:05:13 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Tigercap
Agreed. Franken = irritating (except for Stuart). Exactly what stations are left to pick up and franchise this kind of show ? Rush has the morning time slot, Hannity has afternoon, etc. But of course ABC,NBC,PBS, MSNBC, CNN, LA Times, New York Times will be all over this, even though no one will be listening. It will be over in 6 months.
94 posted on 02/17/2003 9:35:46 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Al Franken is a big fathead.
95 posted on 02/17/2003 9:42:21 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Mike Darancette
Before they go for a radio network they should examine the RED vs. Blue map of the 2000 election.

Especially important for radio demographics. Red = talk radio country.
96 posted on 02/17/2003 10:49:48 AM PST by AdA$tra
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To: AdA$tra
Red = talk radio country.

In many of the Blue areas English Language stations are'nt the most listened to.

97 posted on 02/17/2003 1:08:30 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: finnman69
Many conservatives who assert the news media in general is infused with liberal bias say the premise of a liberal radio network is silly to begin with.

Oh, those consevatives with their "silly" ideas.

But liberal Democrats say even if a liberal bias does exist,

very Clintonian - It's NOT true, but, er.. even if you prove its true, It doesn,t matter because...

the mainstream news media strives for balance and fair play.

As detailed in Goldberg's "Bias" and Coulter's "Slander".

They say their concern is that there are far fewer successful, outright partisan voices on the left than there are on the right.

Now why would that be? And if the situation was reversed, would it still be a problem for the media?

I think NOT.

98 posted on 02/17/2003 2:23:37 PM PST by mcenedo
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To: no bushit1
ZOT!
100 posted on 02/17/2003 8:07:39 PM PST by AdA$tra
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