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But you've shown yourself to be an anti-Catholic bigot time and time again. Why complain when you're called on it?

When I post facts, I hear a lot of whining from those like yourself who want history to make their church look better. But the truth is the Catholic church, as an institution, not as individuals, and often in the name of Catholicism, has hurt and killed people, over and over again. Jews, Orthodox, Protestants, and gypsies.....who knows what other groups?

My opinion is that we need to keep you and your leaders from doing it again. And make sure the truth is told when you and your friends try to whitewash it.

Lots of times when I post about Croatia I get freepmail from freepers who just lurked and had known nothing about it till they read what I posted. That's enough to make it worthwhile right there. Your insults are worthless by comparison.....

The Croatian Holocaust was among the most brutal slaughterings in history, the utashe horrified even the Nazis with their brutality and sadism.

But the truth is the Catholic church, as an institution, not as individuals, and often in the name of Catholicism, has hurt and killed people, over and over again. Jews, Orthodox, Protestants, and gypsies.....who knows what other groups?

And the truth is that the Orthodox church, as an institution, not as individuals, and often in the name of Orthodoxy, has hurt and killed people, over and over again. Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists ... who knows what other groups?

Maybe you'd like to talk about the 13 Ukrainian Catholic martyrs of Pratulin, shot by the Tsar's troops on the steps of their church for refusing to convert to Orthodoxy? This happened in 1876, BTW. The rest of their village was exterminated, as well; only the men who died protecting their church are formally commemorated as saints.

This particular example of the benevolence of the "Holy Orthodox Tsar" was part of a campaign of -- get this -- forcible conversion to Orthodoxy in the Western Ukraine.

I don't particularly care to dredge stuff like that up. It would be nice if we could forgive and forget. But you don't seem to want to go there.

"Let the one among you who is without sin, cast the first stone."

My opinion is that we need to keep you and your leaders from doing it again.

bullcrap. You view this as a competition between Catholics and Orthodox and any anti-Catholic comment you make is not done out of some noble quest but to give your team an edge.

But the truth is the Catholic church, as an institution, not as individuals, and often in the name of Catholicism, has hurt and killed people, over and over again. Jews, Orthodox, Protestants, and gypsies.....who knows what other groups?... My opinion is that we need to keep you and your leaders from doing it again.

Well lookie here... The bigot Marmema has crawled out of her bitter hole to spew some more anti-Catholic drivel. 'The pot calling the kettle black' is her specialty, so no surprise.

Of course, you always neglect to notice that your beloved Russian Orthodox Church specializes in killing its own... and that its highest leader in Moscow, Patriarch Alexei II (aka 'Agent Drozdov'), is an unrepentant KGB spy and plant. But keep on driveling. But you might want to wear a bib to keep the hypocrisy from ruining your shirt.

Almost every Church institution has had moments of which it should be ashamed. It's because they are made up of fallible men and women. But I can't think of any shame that equals what the Russian Orthodox Church did to itself. Who do you think turned in all those dissident Orthodox priests to the communists for murder or the gulag? (Hint: communist Orthodox priests.)

PS. Marmema, while you are stewing in your Catholic-envy juices, you might want to catch the #9-ranked fighting Irish on ESPN basketball next Monday night.

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TheEngineer