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Dennis Miller Takes on a Whining Phil Donahue
MRC ^ | Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:02:17 AM | BrentBaker

Posted on 02/13/2003 8:27:17 AM PST by fight_truth_decay

MSNBC viewers got a lively hour Wednesday night/late afternoon as Donahue came live from Los Angeles at 5pm PST/8pm EST with Dennis Miller as the guest for the hour. So much good stuff, but only so much time to transcribe it. But we got down some of the best parts.

Miller so flustered Donahue that he went on a rant about how people like Miller are trying to "marginalize" liberals. Becoming a parody of himself, Donahue whined about how "you're making us to be some sort of wimpy kind of people who, woo, woo, we don't get it. We don't see evil. We think everything is a nice fairy tale. That is an attempt to marginalize us."

Donahue also claimed to be a conservative Republican: "We do not think one man should have the Army, Navy, and Marines to send the war all by himself and without the advice and consent of Congress as the Constitution calls us, upon us to do. That makes me conservative. I'm for the Constitution. I would make a good Republican."

When Donahue charged that dropping "incendiary devices on a crowded city at night where old people and children are sleeping" will give "Osama a poster for recruiting more angry young Islamic militants," an incredulous Miller fired back: "Oh, you believe he needs that, Phil? Do you really believe that he needs that?"

Miller's best two humorous zingers of the night:

-- On the New York Times: "If only Saddam Hussein would open an all-male country club somewhere in Iraq, so the Times could get behind this invasion."

-- On Osama bin Laden: "I think that he made a fatal error when he said that he didn't approve of drinking wine or adultery. Because now the French and Clinton are on board."

Now, from the portion of the February 12 show quoted above, a full transcript of one of the most illuminating exchanges between Miller and Donahue, as taken down by MRC analyst Brad Wilmouth, starting after Miller suggested liberals don't see the reality of the world:

Donahue: "Well, first of all, your comment suggests that liberals never see evil. Now, that's, what that does is marginalize liberals. I mean, did you ever talk to a liberal?"

Miller: "Yes, most of my great friends in the world are liberals."

Donahue: "But liberals, you're making us to be some sort of wimpy kind of people who, woo, woo, we don't get it. We don't see evil. We think everything is a nice fairy tale. That is an attempt to marginalize us. Our voice is strong, it is growing, we are very proud to live in a country that doesn't squelch it and tries to say shoosh, although everywhere we feel, we feel that kind of pressure. We're proud Americans. We believe in the Constitution. We believe in the War Powers Act. We believe Congress should get into this. We do not think one man should have the Army, Navy, and Marines to send the war all by himself and without the advice and consent of Congress as the Constitution calls us, upon us to do. That makes me conservative. I'm for the Constitution. I would make a good Republican. I don't know why so many Republicans dismiss this feature as sort of in the way. And by the way, we're not so frightened that we have to preempt, preemptively, you know, you got Iraq there, boom!. Oops, sorry, thought you had a gun. Let us just calm down a minute."

Miller: "Oh, if it was only Iraq, Phil, for God's sakes. The sort of Damocles is now an ICBM of Damocles, for God's sakes."

Donahue: "So because these bombs and these instruments of war are now so powerful-"

Miller: "Yes."

Donahue: "We can't wait for a conference. We've got to kill them right now."

Miller: "Listen, we get around, what's our-"

Donahue: "Do you really think it's gonna make us safer-"

Miller: "Yes."

Donahue: "-to drop incendiary devices on a crowded city at night where old people and children are sleeping? They're gonna say, 'Oh, boy, didn't know you were that strong! Okay, no more terrorism.' You are, we are giving Osama a poster for recruiting more angry young Islamic militants."

Miller: "Oh, you believe he needs that, Phil? Do you really believe that he needs that?"

Donahue: "Do you really believe that killing innocent people is going to, is going to make us safer?"

Miller: "Do you think that's our intention, to go over and seek out the innocent people?"

Donahue: "I do not think it's our intention. I do not think we are going to kill innocent people with malice. But we know it's going to happen, and it doesn't have to."

Links to Miller's earlier comments mocking liberals and standing up for President Bush's policies to combat terrorism:

--cyb20030204.asp#4

-- See: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030130.asp#8

-- See: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2002/cyb20021108.asp#7

-- See: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2001/cyb20011107.asp#7

For Miller's Internet Movie Database page with a rundown of his acting credits: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Miller,+Dennis+(I)

Tonight's guest for the hour on Donahue: Atlanta-based conservative radio talk show host Neal Boortz. I see a strategy here: Donahue is bringing on conservative guests so that people will actually watch his show.


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KEYWORDS: bobblehead; dennismiller; donahue; donawho; miller; mrmarlothomas; msnbc; whois
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To: RLJVet
Posted by RLJVet to fight_truth_decay On News/Activism 02/13/2003 9:26 AM PST #40 of 80 "We do not think one man should have the Army, Navy, and Marines to send the war all by himself and without the advice and consent of Congress as the Constitution calls us, upon us to do. That makes me conservative. I'm for the Constitution. I would make a good Republican." I wrote: We think that you would make an exception if the President were someone else whose name I need not mention. Conservatism excludes moral relativism, Phil, so for now I don't think you fit.

Geeze, but it's not as if Donahue was anywhere near to reality in this emotionally charged illogical rant.

81 posted on 02/13/2003 10:53:38 PM PST by RLJVet
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To: fight_truth_decay
Donahue also claimed to be a conservative Republican

Donahue: "But liberals, you're making us to be some sort of wimpy kind of people who, woo, woo, we don't get it.

I bet the man wears suspenders AND a belt!

82 posted on 02/13/2003 11:08:19 PM PST by EGPWS
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