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Judge Blocks Anti-war March Near United Nations (Snicker Snicker)
WINS News ^ | 2/10/03

Posted on 02/10/2003 10:11:50 AM PST by areafiftyone

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To: areafiftyone
A couple of ideas here:

Maybe these protesters could move their protest to King Billy Jeff's office instead?
Office of William Jefferson Clinton
55 West 125 Street
New York, New York 10027
212-348-8882
(f)212-348-9245

Or.............

They could give it up in NYC and go join the hapless human shields.

21 posted on 02/10/2003 10:40:57 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: piasa
Yes, or they could protest in front of the Metropolitan Correctional Center and make it easy for the cops to round them up.
22 posted on 02/10/2003 10:43:17 AM PST by FreeTheHostages (God Bless President Bush)
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To: Wurlitzer
If we believe that any constitutional right can be suspended when any low level government hack declares "In the name of security" then we have completely surrendered to the big government types.

Finally someone with common sense on this thread. Unfortunatley it will be shouted down by the psuedo-patriots who want Iraqi blood.

23 posted on 02/10/2003 10:45:47 AM PST by Sangamon Kid
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To: Sangamon Kid
Finally someone with common sense on this thread. Unfortunatley it will be shouted down by the psuedo-patriots who want Iraqi blood.

The left has blamed America first, and has Islamic members as part of their Communist protest teasm. If I worked at the UN, I'd demand security as well.
I wouldn't want pro-terrorist protestors near the building either.
It's more a case of common sence. I'm sure the FBI and CIA have checked this group out.
There's all kinds of "Hate America first" kooks there. How could anyone NOT want them pushed back a little? They can still protest, but they need to stand out of "attack" range.
Makes sence to me! Who knows how far these nuts will go. They're clinically insane.

24 posted on 02/10/2003 10:56:16 AM PST by concerned about politics (Stop supporting terrorism! Drill ANWAR!)
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To: areafiftyone
ROFL. I love it.

In all seriousness, a large antiwar march would seem to be an ideal target for a terrorist strike. Tons of media coverage, lots of bodies. And the pinheaded America haters would still love Saddam and Al Qaeda!

" We understand their anger with us and want to give them a hug"

I saw the swat team police with MP-5's and shotguns outside the Temple Emannuel on 5th avenue this weekend. NYPD is on high alert and I bet they told the city they cannot guaranteee the safety of a huge mass of protesters, nor can they guarantee the safety of the UN with a large group in front of it.

25 posted on 02/10/2003 10:58:01 AM PST by finnman69 (!)
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Maybe they could protest at Ground Zero that should make for some stunning tv.
26 posted on 02/10/2003 10:58:34 AM PST by TD911
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To: areafiftyone
Im pretty sick of these idiots sticking their anti-American march Feb 15th stickers everywhere. I carry a pocket knife around so I can peel/scrape these things off wherever I see one.
27 posted on 02/10/2003 10:59:37 AM PST by finnman69 (!)
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To: Wurlitzer
"In the name of security", will be the death call of our constitutional rights.

How about "in the name of the budget"? I forgot the total cost to NYC for the WEF protests in Feb. 2002, but it was a hefty amount.

And I just heard today that the tab for the last big antiwar rally (DC, Jan. 18) was 9 million dollars.

Free speech sure costs a lot, depending on who is speaking. I'm not cheering, but I also don't see why I should have to choose between fully subsidizing their speech with my tax dollars or opting to have NO security at these things, allow the marchers to shut down the city or riot at will, and hope the responding policeman are able to pick the offenders out of a mob of 100,00 after the fact.

28 posted on 02/10/2003 11:00:10 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Wurlitzer
"In the name of security", will be the death call of our constitutional rights. If we believe that any constitutional right can be suspended when any low level government hack declares "In the name of security" then we have completely surrendered to the big government types.

Bump!

29 posted on 02/10/2003 11:07:10 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: hellinahandcart
Free speech sure costs a lot, depending on who is speaking.

BS. If speech morphs into criminal activity...then prosecute and punish the a-holes like criminals. That way...you'd have a less a-hole protesters. Incompetence and inability to enforce laws already on the books is not an excuse to curb free speech.

30 posted on 02/10/2003 11:12:13 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: hellinahandcart
"Free speech sure costs a lot, depending on who is speaking. I'm not cheering, but I also don't see why I should have to choose between fully subsidizing their speech with my tax dollars or opting to have NO security at these things, allow the marchers to shut down the city or riot at will, and hope the responding policeman are able to pick the offenders out of a mob of 100,00 after the fact."

BUMP!!

Of course, those yelling about Constitutional rights care no more about such simple logic than they do about the fact that the protestors will STILL be allowed to protest. They're already off in "Big Brother is out to get us all mode already." I don't think any of them noticed that the protest will go on as scheduled.

31 posted on 02/10/2003 11:17:00 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
You cannot have the arrests unless you have the security forces present, and they have to be paid whether a riot breaks out or not.

All because these people aren't satisfied with the numbers they can pull in locally, and have to bus people in from all over the country to clog up our streets.

Come to think of it, I'm not even subsidizing free speech. I'm subsidizing a radical-left media event.

32 posted on 02/10/2003 11:18:25 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: areafiftyone
Bump!

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Operation Infinite FReep Nation Wide Feb. 15th !!

33 posted on 02/10/2003 11:19:20 AM PST by Flyer (Operation Infinite FReep Nation Wide February 15th !!)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
I would love to see this happen, even though (cough!) that costs a lot of money too..

Unfortunately these cases are usually dismissed for lack of evidence. How can even the police be reasonably sure they've nabbed the right rioter if they weren't RIGHT THERE to see the windows smashed and the cars set on fire?

The culprits nearly always get away with it.

Though I suppose this problem could be solved by putting cameras everywhere...would you like that better? ;D
34 posted on 02/10/2003 11:22:15 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: areafiftyone
Citing "this time of heightened security," U.S. District Judge Barbara S. Jones said the city's need to protect the public outweighs the right of demonstrators to proceed with plans to march past the UN.

What is it about going near the UN that is inherently dangerous for the public? Hmmmm? ;^)

35 posted on 02/10/2003 11:28:57 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317
The stench!
36 posted on 02/10/2003 11:29:52 AM PST by areafiftyone (The U.N. is now officially irrelevant! The building is for Sale!!!)
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To: finnman69
I've seen them too and with the headgear they are pretty awesome looking! I am glad they can't march because on a Saturday there aren't that many people around the U.N. as there are during the week. They won't get that much exposure (except by the liberal media - and thats only if nothing major happens in the news on that day) and now most of the New Yorkers can avoid them if they are in one place. Just checked the weather for Saturday - Cloudy with a chance of snow. Low 20's.
37 posted on 02/10/2003 11:36:20 AM PST by areafiftyone (The U.N. is now officially irrelevant! The building is for Sale!!!)
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To: areafiftyone
"The stench!"

SECOND HAND B.O.!! Bloomie should make a law...

38 posted on 02/10/2003 11:39:21 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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To: areafiftyone
These same people screaming about the 1st amendment in being regulated to a rally instead of a march, have no issue whatsoever with using government sanction via RICO to shut down pro-lifers.
39 posted on 02/10/2003 11:42:51 AM PST by amused (Creed of the Leftist: "Freedom of speech as long as you are in agreement")
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To: DoughtyOne
If we're lucky, it would fall on them.

Let them go then! I'll pass out crowbars.

40 posted on 02/10/2003 11:43:51 AM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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