Fellow Aviator and Military Freepers!

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[The Magical Mischief Tour]

Nice 135 crew, the one riding heard on the plumbers panels while very cute and all, looks to be not a day over 15.

I've crewed with many many pilots in my days and some of the best sticks have been female.

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[whipitgood]

I wondered the same thing. I hate to think what life would be like for these kids if they ever got shot down over Iraq.

[nicollo]

Last point and then I'm putting the asbestos MOPP suit on, the bane of many folks here is feminism and yet without the feminine movement there would be no conservative females in traditionally male occupations. Chew on that one for awhile.

No one else has taken you up on it, so I guess it's up to me.

"Feminism" didn't open the work world for women. Feminism's sole accomplishment has been the masculinization of women. It was inevitible with the pill, abortion, and effective condoms, but those technologies unto themselves would not have freed the female libido from the ovaries. While birth control removes the intended consequence from the sex act, feminism made it political. Birth control was the means of the "sexual revolution," while feminism was its end. All it ended up doing was to create a generation of women who want to act like men.

Reality has interceded, as usual. Women who spend their youth in promiscuity, career and money chasing, approaching the 40 barrier, find themselves at middle age empty and craving to satisfy their bodies' intended purpose, to have children. The fertilization industry is a product of feminism.

Women had no other barrier to the work force than their own ambition. That the feminist movement contributed to the entry of women to the workforce is true does not make it the cause (we may certainly give account to brith control). WWII did more for it than anything else, but the largest reason for women joining the workforce was because they wanted it. It didn't take Friedan & Co. to liberate the world for Linda Chavez. Freidan took advantage of a social change that was already happening for political gain. Chavez employed her skills and intelligence.

As William Howard Taft said in 1909 of women's suffrage,

The truth is I am not in favor of suffrage for women until I can be convinced that all the women desire it. When they desire it I am in favor of giving it to them, and when they desire it they will get it, too.

[Archangelsk]

Feminism's sole accomplishment has been the masculinization of women. It was inevitible with the pill, abortion, and effective condoms, but those technologies unto themselves would not have freed the female libido from the ovaries. While birth control removes the intended consequence from the sex act, feminism made it political. Birth control was the means of the "sexual revolution," while feminism was its end. All it ended up doing was to create a generation of women who want to act like men.

Valid points. However, in the effort to "level the playing field" we have gone too far (don't get me started on PT standards in the Army). As more women invade - yes, invade - the traditional enclaves of men, they quickly learn that the very qualities that make them women become a superior advantage (go ahead, tell me some crusty, male flag officer or managing director isn't going to be swayed by a perky female over a male everyday - trust me, I've seen it happen). While this advances her career, it destroys the "cause" and morale of the unit.

What sickens me the most about the picture above is how many good men were bypassed to put together this recruitment poster? The other question is, what is the intent of the photo to begin with?

[nicollo]

I see it now. Please forgive me for misreading your post. Yes, you are right. This advertisement is a feminist by-product. I'm not totally offended, but I appreciate your offense at it.

In the early days of the suffragettes, it was said that women's suffrage would purify the vote. How wrong they were! Same goes with the military, and society at large.

Women are women. Men are men. Ain't no ideology, Air Force ad campaign, or morning after pill gonna change that.

This poses interesting questions as I sort through my ambitions for my 13-year old daughter. I want her to succeed and to surpass, and I want her to excell as a woman and a human being. These are not incompatible elements, just as they are not shared by the sexes. My goal is to empower her person without compromise of her womanhood. The feminists can't tell the difference between the two. Too bad the Air Force can't, either.