[spetznaz]

I mentioned some other aircraft in my post above and here are their pictures (those who know me know i am infamous for pics ....blame it on a hyper-fast ethernet internet uplink that i flaunt with unabated vivacity LOL).

F-22 Raptor:

F-23 Black Widow

Yak-48 (Basically a Soviet knockoff of the Harrier series that was not even nearly as good as the Harrier )

Yak-141 Freestyle (Now this was an aircraft that was formidable, however due to Russian money issues only a few have been made. However this aircraft, although it has the distinction of being the first supersonic VTOL jet, does not even come close to matching the JSF, meaning it is already obsolete ....unless it is facing Harriers. And even that is questionable because based on UK Falklands results British pilots were able to use the subsonic harriers to great effect .....and a harrier in the hands of a competent ...read UK or US ....pilot is still an extremely deadly aircraft)

[VaBthang4]

Now see Spetz...

You know I love you but this is what I am talking about.

You just used a Nova story on America's JSF to drop in some Russian desgns that are basically "crap".

The JSF is more advanced than even the F-15 which I am sure you'd agree would make quick work of the two Russian examples you listed.

You said: Yak-48 (Basically a Soviet knockoff of the Harrier series that was not even nearly as good as the Harrier )"

It was a laugher and everyone knew it. I know you know it...I'll assume you listed it as a cheesy example of incompetence when designing effective Vertical Takeoff and Landing aircraft.~Wink~

Then you said: "Yak-141 Freestyle (Now this was an aircraft that was formidable..."

Let me jump in here. No it wasnt! LOL...A harrier would destroy this plane. The Harrier can perform a million and one different functions at low speed...this russian crap cant. I appreciate their having a similar design as far using the rear nozzle as a lift but it was basically a huge gas guzzling VSTOL that could hit Mach. I have no doubt that it's agility was severely limited due to its size and feul requirements.

I'm gonna chalk this up to being another example of your seemingly endless overzealous desire to someway list a Russian aircraft design was discussing the cream of the crop. But it amounts to discussing a semi-pro football player while showing video of the NFL All-Pro team.

:o)

[Centurion2000]

bump

[JimVT]

Fascinating program.

Interesting that Public TV Nova got the nod to do it.

Lot's of hints in the program that it was going to be literally a 'battle to the death' but I doubt it...especially with Boeing's leg up on unmanned a/c.

BTW....you sound like a very sharp young man from your bio.

Try not to trip on your ego as you climb the ladder of life.

Best regards from JimVT

[Jeff Head]

Nick name for the Yak was "FUGSD"

FLY UP ... GET SHOT DOWN.

[illumini]

Great photos! Yak 48 built in Saratov at S.A.Z.(...Been there) One of the ejection seat companies at Farnborough was showing off a video of their seat saving a Russian pilot when his Yak 48 crashed onto an aircraft carrier.

[GunRunner]

...or Israeli.

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

However this aircraft, although it has the distinction of being the first supersonic VTOL jet

Sorry but that distinction belongs to the EWR VJ-101.

The French also built some Mirage IIIV fighters that not only went supersonic but were bisonic, Mach 2.0+.

These planes all flew in the mid 60s, long before the Yak 141.

[dixie sass]

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