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The Civil War Returns (Gods and Generals)
The American Enterprise ^
| March 2003
| Bill Kauffman
Posted on 02/04/2003 8:09:48 AM PST by Valin
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To: Valin
I paid admission to Gettysburg two times as one viewing wasn't enough to absorb the movie. I expect to do the same with this new one as it sounds great!
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posted on
02/04/2003 9:58:10 AM PST
by
RicocheT
To: Green Kayak
It is for the audience to decide who is hero, who is villain. We simply play the parts allotted to us. Lincoln was killed for going to soft on the South !
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posted on
02/04/2003 9:59:39 AM PST
by
f.Christian
(( Orcs of the world : : : Take note and beware. ))
To: GOP_Proud
Glad to know there's at least one other woman who'll see this movie. I'm chomping at the bit - have been since I heard it was coming out!
To: GOP_Proud
I think we may be pleasantly surprised. The big problem is the lack of a draw for women. This is, however, one woman who will be there...but I'm a history nut.Dittos, GOP_Proud! I'm a history nut too! I thought the same thing about the movie, Braveheart. When it came out, my husband wanted to go see it, but I was not interested (sounded like a "guy" flick). But I "compromised" and went with him. Well, much to my surprise, I thought it was absolutely terrifc, the best movie I'd ever seen (at the time).
Regarding Gods and Generals, I have been so fascinated with the history of the Civil War (especially since living in VA for the past 20 years). I'm not from the south, but I love calling it home, and wouldn't trade it for a place in the north for anything!
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posted on
02/04/2003 10:16:54 AM PST
by
nfldgirl
To: Hobey Baker
Counting the days! I hope that is right.
I saw a couple of months ago a review of Gangs of New York that just glowed -- a movie for the ages.
I thought it was complete crap.
Daniel Day Lewis does a great job, but the movie as a whole was very lame.
Walt
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posted on
02/04/2003 10:44:09 AM PST
by
WhiskeyPapa
(To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
To: NWU Army ROTC
Mouth watering, date marked. Wow, something tells me the theater won't be packed though, shame. When "Gettysburg" came out, its per-screen gross was more than that of the number one film in that period -- "Dennis the Menace". But G-burg was only on 239 screen and Dennis was on 2,000.
Walt
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posted on
02/04/2003 10:51:21 AM PST
by
WhiskeyPapa
(To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
To: f.Christian
"Lincoln was killed for going too soft on the South"
The antagonism of Johnson merely served to cement the divisions and angst of both sides. Jim Crow, along with subsequent unrest and strife resulted. The assassin's bullet not only struck down a leader dedicated to healing the nation, but it also ultimately caused the implosion of the South upon itself. Air conditioning did the rest.
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posted on
02/04/2003 11:25:23 AM PST
by
Green Kayak
(The New South is just like the Old South, except that all the trucks are now made in Japan)
To: Green Kayak
Lincoln was having premonitions . . . isn't hard to understand why (( look in the faces around you . . . rejection // hate )) !
Thanks for correcting my spelling !
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posted on
02/04/2003 11:43:31 AM PST
by
f.Christian
(( Orcs of the world : : : Take note and beware. ))
To: Valin
In test markets like Charlotte, the film scored spectacularly high with men over the age of 35 and not so well with teenage girls... I can see lines of over 35 male Civil War buffs camped at the theaters waiting for the first show. It will look like the Confederate encampments before Fredricksburg.
I am twitching with anticipation.
To: Valin
Yes, he instantly replies. My sense of the tragedy of the war has been deepened. Thats why I wanted Shakespeare to comment on the war through Booth. Yes, that Booth.
In a device as audacious as it is brilliant, Maxwell has a pair of traveling Southern Shakespearean actors, James Harrison and John Wilkes Booth, offer a running commentary on secession, war, and the duty of the artist. Booth had a flair for Shakespearean regicides.
Is this in the book? If it's not, it's disturbing. I would have wanted to hear more about Shaara's novel. If it's a great film, Maxwell will deserve much credit, but Kauffman's ignoring the writer is pretty shabby.
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posted on
02/04/2003 12:11:58 PM PST
by
x
To: John H K
"I'm always a bit bemused by the irony on some of the Civil War threads when people supporting the right of Confederate states to secede get all offended by pro-Union counties seceeding from Confederate states."
Ah, yes, but you miss the finer, more bitter irony of how the Union supporters totally accept the secession.
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posted on
02/04/2003 12:15:05 PM PST
by
Lee'sGhost
(To BOLDLY go . . . (no whimpy libs allowed).)
To: Valin
How is it Lod, can you splain sumpin to dis olVirginy man? How is it a good Christian man like some folks I know can tolerate dey black brothers in bondage? How it is Lod, dat dey dont jes break dem chains? Teary already. Have to see this movie.
To: Valin
Can't wait! Bump for later...
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posted on
02/04/2003 12:21:37 PM PST
by
MrJingles
(Clones are people, two.)
To: Valin
Not to be too picky, but it wasn't a civil war.
To: f.Christian
Spelling is the curse of the former English teecher.
To: Green Kayak
I go bye a sign everday .. .. .. Mangoes // fruit -- cheep !
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posted on
02/04/2003 1:06:38 PM PST
by
f.Christian
(( Orcs of the world : : : Take note and beware. ))
To: ThomasJefferson
For what it's worth I was going to put "War of Northern Aggression" in the keywords line but too long.
I know how touchy you rebs can get, what with losing the war and all. :-)
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posted on
02/04/2003 8:30:39 PM PST
by
Valin
(Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
To: Valin
Not ideal conditions for sitting down to a three-hour-and-45-minute movie Whew. Talk about nicotine jonesing near the end ;)
I'll still be going to see it.
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posted on
02/04/2003 8:39:10 PM PST
by
strela
(If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you oughta go back home and crawl under your bed.)
To: Valin
I know how touchy you rebs can get, what with losing the war and all. :-)Born and raised in Chicago. It's just a point without taking sides, it was never a civil war, it was the war between the states. It was more like the Revolution, it was for independance.
IMO, the south should have abolished slavery and then seceeded.
To: Valin
Damn! For the past 15 years I've avoided theatres like the plague! Prefer to wait till a movie hti the tape or DVD.
Used to hate it when I got browbeat by my better half into taking the girls to the latest kids film.
BUT I gotta see this!!!
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posted on
02/04/2003 9:18:53 PM PST
by
suijuris
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