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Semi-auto Nail Guns: Quick-draw fire requests for safer triggers
St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^
| 02/02/2003 10:17 PM
| Virginia Baldwin Gilbert
Posted on 02/03/2003 6:49:31 AM PST by rface
Edited on 05/11/2004 10:59:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Some leaders in the construction industry want workers and contractors to change their trigger-happy ways
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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; nailguns
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posted on
02/03/2003 6:49:31 AM PST
by
rface
To: rface
Some carpenters have nailed a foot to the floorSo? Some carpenters have whacked their thumbs with a hammer....so, let's BAN HAMMERS!! If it saves just ONE thumb
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posted on
02/03/2003 6:53:55 AM PST
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it.)
To: rface
We've got to keep working on making the world safe from any possibility of pain and suffering for either humans or animals. We deserve a risk-free existence. It's (sniff) for the children!
To: Puppage
Sounds like union featherbeading to me.
Personally I wouldn't have a sequencial one, nailer or stapler.
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:01:40 AM PST
by
dalereed
To: rface
In contrast, a sequential trigger requires that users place the gun in position, then pull the trigger each time they want to shoot a nail. Anyone who has ever used a nail gun quickly discovers that if the gun is placed against the spot where the nail is wanted and then the trigger is pulled the nail is not driven in all the way.
Recoil moves the nail gun away from the board and leaves about an inch of nail sticking out which must be hammered in.
The great advantage of "bounce nailing" is that the gun is moving toward the board and its momentum can balance the recoil so that the nail is driven in all the way by the nail gun.
It takes about 15 minutes of practice to get the hang of this so it comes out just right.
We are now going to have a new safety rule which lowers productivity.
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:08:24 AM PST
by
CurlyDave
To: rface
Cooper's third Rule of (nail) Gun Safety:
"Keep your finger off the trigger until the sights are
on the target."
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:08:25 AM PST
by
G-Bear
To: rface
Many contact-trigger guns are capable of firing nine nails a second, said Jim Nolan one of the carpenters who conducted the interviews for the study. "Why would you need to do that?" said Nolan, who built houses for 42 years without ever using a nail gun. What total hooey! This fellow condems his opinion in his own statement.
Anyone who has ever actually used a nail gun knows that even bang nailing requires the gun come back down on the head. It's not like you can keep contact with the surface being nailed, even if you wanted to.
No matter what manufacturers do to make things "safe", the end users (especially if they make their living with the tool) will go around the safety to make using the tool fast and efficient.
The first thing off the table saw is the guard. You can't see through it when cutting.
Chainsaw? The tip guard comes off 'cause you can't plunge cut with it on.
Name a tool with a "safety" addition - I'll show you a safety addition on the ground or left in the box.
To: dalereed
I put a 3 inch nail though my finger i put a circle around it and took care of it at lunch guess what i have not done it again if you are mindfull nail guns are safe and fun at lunch we have target practice on cardboard targets My weapon of choice is a senco although the Binford 1000 turbo nailer gets some praise
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:10:30 AM PST
by
al baby
To: grobdriver
...The first thing off the table saw is the guard. You can't see through it when cutting. Chainsaw? The tip guard comes off 'cause you can't plunge cut with it on. Name a tool with a "safety" addition - I'll show you a safety addition on the ground or left in the box.Honey, is that you? If not, you sound just like my husband.
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:12:15 AM PST
by
CFW
To: rface
I want to see the injury to total nails driven ratio first...
To: rface
How can I work in a comment about a 21 nail-gun salute?
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:17:23 AM PST
by
Rollee
To: CFW
Oh yeah the guard on the bottom of my skill saw 77 is pined back for fast cuts and no binding
12
posted on
02/03/2003 7:17:56 AM PST
by
al baby
To: al baby
I had a lathing superintendant years ago that was riding an apprentice unmercifly that was nailing off on the exterior and the apprentice got so pissed that he turned the stapler on the superintendant and punched about 20 7/8" staples into his ass before he jumped off the second floor scaffold!
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:19:43 AM PST
by
dalereed
To: al baby
Also i rarley use goggels one customer of mine asked why i dont when i was trimming up a solid oak door worth about 1200 dollars and i said oh no problem i just close my eyes
he gave me a funny look and went and told his wife who gave me a ration of it
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:21:35 AM PST
by
al baby
To: rface
"Nail Guns Don't Nail People ...People Nail People"
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:22:47 AM PST
by
woofie
(old age aint for sissies)
To: dalereed
I got airnailed into a andy gump once my buddy came over with 2/4s and boarded it up it was funny as hell i put his saw blade in backwards he had a hell of a time for a while
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:24:22 AM PST
by
al baby
To: woofie
See post #13!
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:25:16 AM PST
by
dalereed
To: al baby
Binford 1000? I don't think so, Al. Unless it's for a 21-Nail-Gun salute.
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:27:25 AM PST
by
wbill
To: grobdriver
So he built houses for 42 years without using a nail gun, if he's still building today he's either not making any money, paying his workers minimum wage, or only working for people who have the time to wait for him to finish. In today's world, you need power tools like nail guns to speed up the job. A couple of days less labor is money saved and a happy customer.
A roofer that I know didn't buy a nailer until three years ago. He preferred to hand nail, but his customers wanted the jobs done in one or two days, not a week. Now, he can't compete without power tools.
In any event, most pneumatic (and gas powered) nailers sold today can be set for either contact or sequential trip. Then again, job site awereness is key to safety. Pretty soon, you'll be seeing a return to hand saws, if the nanny state has its way.
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posted on
02/03/2003 7:27:27 AM PST
by
par4
To: rface
oooh, I
HATE when that happens...
20
posted on
02/03/2003 7:29:27 AM PST
by
Hatteras
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