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To: bondserv
A student that has a different interpretation of the facts and wishes to persue that line of investigation, should be welcomed in our individualistic society.

You are employing the same logic as the liberals who are against the teaching of spelling, or who believe that there are no wrong answers in arithmetic.

Sorry, but evolution is basic biology, just as the fact of an ancient, expanding universe is basic cosmology. You cannot substitute your feelings for science and expect scientists to accept that as equally valid.

Suppose a math student asked for a recommendation from a professor, after insisting that pi=3, based on his interpretation of the Bible? Should he be "forced" to "think inside the box"? Or should the professor be compelled to ratify his choice, by being required by law to sign his name to a statement he doesn't believe, praising the student's grasp of mathematics? Was Galileo required to do much more than this?

79 posted on 02/03/2003 8:38:48 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
The pi=3 belief student (to take a very silly example; the bible does NOT teach this) would be fine as long as he can show the math professor the proper equations.
81 posted on 02/03/2003 8:42:35 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Physicist
So you believe evolution is so much basic biology that it has no issues.

In my math
Oil glands + Sticky Web = Designed Spider

Your math
Oil Glands + Sticky Web = Mother earth, Gaia, Supercomputing micro virus, morphing DNA code, Nuclear radiation, SPIDERMAN

Comic book math.
91 posted on 02/03/2003 9:02:23 AM PST by bondserv
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To: Physicist; general_re; VadeRetro
It's amazing that none of the 'rationalists' on this thread have noticed the glaring flaw in their logic here:

Faith in God is just that, Faith. It is not something that can be proved by regression analysis, slide rulers and so forth (although the Shroud of Turin has yet to be explained by you people). And because Faith is not empirically provable, it is derided and disregarded as 'superstition' by the pro-evolutionists on this thread.

Evolution's great conceit is that it is scientifically valid; it can be tested to be true. Scientifically valid things expose themselves to 'falsifiability', or rigorous testing which may eventually show whatever doctrine is being tested to be false.

The good professor in this article seems to want to have it both ways: evolution is superior to teleolgy (the design argument) because it is scientifically provable, i.e. it is falsifiable. But if you want to gain the skills necessary to be able to potentially falsify the doctrine of evolution, he stops you from doing so. In other words, evolution is superior to creationism because it's scientifically valid; but if you want to use the scientific method to test evolution--and thus challenge it's valitity--we're going to stop you because we know it's true, and it doesn't need to be tested.

Imagine a university professor denying a Ph.D. to Einstein because Einstein thought Newtonian physics to be flawed and incomplete. And considering Einstein's theory on the speed of light being constant was recently very seriously challenged, should the American University system have denied graduate study to Einstein skeptics?

Which doctrine is more faith-based, I wonder?

117 posted on 02/03/2003 9:36:31 AM PST by HumanaeVitae (The DNC is a WMD)
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To: Physicist
insisting that pi=3, based on his interpretation of the Bible?

It says no such thing. It gives some measurements of the circumferance of some ceremonial shields in Solomon's temple; it doesnt say, "the circumference is exactly three times the radius."

Heck, you as a scientist should know about approximations. For a rough estimate, pi = 3 is relatively decent.

122 posted on 02/03/2003 9:45:31 AM PST by jude24
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