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Columbia's Problems Began on Left Wing
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Posted on 02/01/2003 4:25:45 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Columbia's Problems Began on Left Wing By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 6:56 p.m. ET

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) -- Investigators trying to figure out what destroyed space shuttle Columbia immediately focused on the left wing and the possibility that its thermal tiles were damaged far more seriously than NASA realized by a piece of debris during liftoff.

Just a little over a minute into Columbia's launch Jan. 16, a chunk of insulating foam peeled away from the external fuel tank and smacked into the ship's left wing.

On Saturday, that same wing started exhibiting sensor failures and other problems 23 minutes before Columbia was scheduled to touch down. With just 16 minutes remaining before landing, the shuttle disintegrated over Texas.

Just a day earlier, on Friday, NASA's lead flight director, Leroy Cain, had declared the launch-day incident to be absolutely no reason for concern. An extensive engineering analysis had concluded that any damage to Columbia's thermal tiles would be minor.

``As we look at that now in hindsight ... we can't discount that there might be a connection,'' shuttle manager Ron Dittemore said on Saturday, hours after the tragedy. ``But we have to caution you and ourselves that we can't rush to judgment on it because there are a lot of things in this business that look like the smoking gun but turn out not even to be close.''

The shuttle has more than 20,000 thermal tiles to protect it from the extreme heat of re-entry into the atmosphere. The black, white or gray tiles are made of a carbon composite or silica-glass fibers and are attached to the shuttle with silicone adhesive.

If a spaceship has loose, damaged or missing tiles, that can change the aerodynamics of the ship and warp or melt the underlying aluminum airframe, causing nearby tiles to peel off in a chain reaction.

If the tiles start stripping off in large numbers or in crucial spots, a spacecraft can overheat, break up and plunge to Earth in a shower of hot metal, much like Russia's Mir space station did in 2001.

Dittemore said that the disaster could have been caused instead by a structural failure of some sort. He did not elaborate.

As for other possibilities, however, NASA said that until the problems with the wing were noticed, everything else appeared to be performing fine.

NASA officials said, for example, that the shuttle was in the proper position when it re-entered the atmosphere on autopilot. Re-entry at too steep an angle can cause a spaceship to burn up.

Law enforcement authorities said was no indication of terrorism; at an altitude of 39 miles, the shuttle was out of range of any surface-to-air missile, one senior government official said.

If the liftoff damage was to blame, the shuttle and its crew of seven may well have been doomed from the very start of the mission.

Dittemore said there was nothing that the astronauts could have done in orbit to fix damaged thermal tiles and nothing that flight controllers could have done to safely bring home a severely scarred shuttle, given the extreme temperatures of re-entry.

The shuttle broke apart while being exposed to the peak temperature of 3,000 degrees on the leading edge of the wings, while traveling at 12,500 mph, or 18 times the speed of sound.

A California Institute of Technology astronomer Anthony Beasley, reported seeing a trail of fiery debris behind the shuttle over California, with one piece clearly backing away and giving off its own light before slowly fading and falling. Dittemore was unaware of the sighting and did not want to speculate on it.

If thermal tiles were being ripped off the wing, that would have created drag and the shuttle would have started tilting from the ideal angle of attack. That could have caused the ship to overheat and disintegrate.

Dittemore said that even if the astronauts had gone out on an emergency spacewalk, there was no way a spacewalker could have safely checked under the wings, which bear the brunt of heat re-entry and have reinforced protection.

Even if they did find damage, there was nothing the crew could have done to fix it, he said.

``There's nothing that we can do about tile damage once we get to orbit,'' Dittemore said. ``We can't minimize the heating to the point that it would somehow not require a tile. So once you get to orbit, you're there and you have your tile insulation and that's all you have for protection on the way home from the extreme thermal heating during re-entry.''

The shuttle was not equipped with its 50-foot robot arm because it was not needed during this laboratory research mission, and so the astronauts did not have the option of using the arm's cameras to get a look at the damage.

NASA did not request help in trying to observe the damaged area with ground telescopes or satellites, in part because it did not believe the pictures would be useful, Dittemore.

Long-distance pictures did not help flight controllers when they wanted to see the tail of space shuttle Discovery during John Glenn's flight in 1998; the door for the drag-chute compartment had fallen off seconds after liftoff.

It was the second time in just four months that a piece of fuel-tank foam came off during a shuttle liftoff. In October, Atlantis lost a piece of foam that ended up striking the aft skirt of one of its solid-fuel booster rockets. At the time, the damage was thought to be superficial.

Dittemore said this second occurrence ``is certainly a signal to our team that something has changed.''


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: columbiatragedy; feb12003; nasa; spaceshuttle; sts107
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To: OReilly
I have learned not to hold NASA in Awe... they are engineers that have learned to be politicians if they want to advance... (more so, the higher you go in paycheck amount) and not usually trustworthy. Goldin was the apex of this corollary

The real corollary, sir, is that you are full of shit.

161 posted on 02/01/2003 6:35:04 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Trust but Verify
apparently you do not understand If the ground crew had told the shuttle crew that their lives depended on a visual scan of the wing, they'd have improvised a way to have checked it.

They (mission control) had taken pictures (visual check) of previous missions using telescopes yet declined to do so in this case.

I'll stand by my assessment that mission control screwed up by not doing a visual check. Like I said in a earlier post , the debris impact may or may not have damaged the left wing.

Since they didn't bother to check it out to their utmost ability, it'll just have to be a question that naws on them while they lay awake at night. Action or lack thereof when other people's lives depend on what you do has it's consequences.

162 posted on 02/01/2003 6:37:10 PM PST by csvset (I'm not really a rocket scientist, I only play one on the internet.)
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To: r9etb
Now, now guys lets not start the name calling. I thought we had a pretty good dilog going.
163 posted on 02/01/2003 6:38:01 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: r9etb
...and do you have any substantiation for that remark other than the amount of you paycheck or former paycheck?
164 posted on 02/01/2003 6:38:23 PM PST by OReilly
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To: r9etb
Thanks for the info. I kind of figured it was a little too simple.
165 posted on 02/01/2003 6:39:20 PM PST by jenny65
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To: OReilly
This thread seems to be moderated by pro-NASA types... I heard the same press conference but the reason given for no concern was that they had no capability for in-orbit tile repair.

I admit to being fuzzy on this point: but NASA had *BETTER* not have thought that! I certainly hope, for all of the obvious reasons, that the decision was "we think this course of action involves an acceptable risk" -- and maybe secondarily "and that's a relief, 'cause we wouldn't know what to do anyway."

If it's truly the other way 'round, then people should be headed to jail for gross negligence. Risks of the job are one thing: you expect your support crew to minimize them, however.

For the record, I would call myself pro-NASA in terms of the space program. However, I wonder if they have once again gotten complacent in their own success. I think that given the possibility of catatrophic failure and loss of human life that at least a reasonable amount of effort should have been expended... we've had several ideas for that here in this forum -- and we're not exactly the experts.

166 posted on 02/01/2003 6:40:50 PM PST by alancarp (hindsight is 20/20, but useless at a funeral)
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To: Sub-Driver
It's too bad they didn't have a camera mounted atop the external fuel tank like on STS112 a little while back. May have provided them with more information.

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/video/shuttle/sts-112/html/fd1.html
167 posted on 02/01/2003 6:44:56 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo
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To: TheDon
"Dittemore said that even if the astronauts had gone out on an emergency spacewalk, there was no way a spacewalker could have safely checked under the wings, which bear the brunt of heat re-entry and have reinforced protection.

That's a load of crap ... did they stop taking MMU (manned maneuvering units) for the spacesuits up with them ?

168 posted on 02/01/2003 6:45:14 PM PST by Centurion2000 (The question is not whether you're paranoid, but whether you're paranoid enough.)
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To: r9etb
The real corollary, sir, is that you are full of shit.

Do you think I am going to forget what the guys that did this the last time, did? Do you think you always should get the benefit of the doubt? Goldin was so Clintonesque, I lost all faith in the good faith of NASA Engineers.

169 posted on 02/01/2003 6:45:26 PM PST by OReilly
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To: KickRightRudder
Skynews website has a British scientist quoted as saying that NASA knew this ending was going to happen after finding out about the damaged tile, but couldn't do a damn thing about it.

Typical fourth estate BS. This crash occurred during the period of maximum dynamic stress on the ship. It will probably turn out to be structural failure caused by a heavy cargo load and spacecraft aging. The foam will likely turn out to be unrelated. Didn't early shuttle flights routinely come back with missing tiles?

If NASA had known the ship was in danger, they would have at least instructed the crew to dump the cargo and lighten the load. If they were convinced it wasn't coming back, they could have perhaps sent the Discovery up to rescue the crew and then made a probably futile attempt to auto pilot the Challenger back to Vandenberg (or some other destination where a breakup would occur over water).

171 posted on 02/01/2003 6:49:25 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
Typical fourth estate BS.

Typical NASA Group Think...

172 posted on 02/01/2003 6:51:35 PM PST by OReilly
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To: OReilly
How many men did Columbus lose? I agree we are sending too many humans up, experiments ought to be automatic. Much could be done with unmanned experiments and rockets.

A totally safe space program has never existed and probably never will. What reliability do you think is acceptable? 1 in a 100? 1 in a thousand? We never have created a new plane with killing somebody.
173 posted on 02/01/2003 6:52:27 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: cynwoody; OReilly
Does anybody know why the load was so heavy? This was a flight to conduct scientific experiments, wasn't it? So was the load the gear needed for those experiments? If so, then, if the load was the problem, it would seem the plan was to conduct more experiments than was safe.
174 posted on 02/01/2003 6:53:05 PM PST by aristeides
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To: cynwoody
All of your statements have been made by Non Auronautical Engineers, that were not on the NASA Defense team. Your only defense is that they didn't think there was a problem.

All the Defenders have said they couldn't lighten the load....etc.

175 posted on 02/01/2003 6:54:57 PM PST by OReilly
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To: John Jamieson
Might have been able to due a space rescue for a few people, but not 7. Time would have run out.

They couldn't prep a shuttle in a few days for launch ? How long would it take to get one of them ready and launched from a dead start ?

176 posted on 02/01/2003 6:55:22 PM PST by Centurion2000 (The question is not whether you're paranoid, but whether you're paranoid enough.)
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To: Lord Voldemort
I read somewhere that there's 26 miles or so of wiring inside a Shuttle. Think MacGyvering of a non-essential system ...

And ALL of that "non-essential" wiring is contained in wiring harnesses along with other essential systems... And very little of it is accessible without the facilities to do a major overhaul.

Ed White carried a little handheld jet on Gemini, connected via an umbilical and fueled from inside the spacecraft if I remember correctly. If you'll forgive me, this is not rocket science.

And if you recall, Ed White was tethered to his Gemini capsul by an umbilical cord that carried oxygen, climate control and power to his suit. MMUs provide more than just manueverability, they are also life support and heating/cooling units. Inspecting, much less repairing, the tiles is not a quick job and would require more time than would be allowed by a mere spacesuit plus little hand held jet.

With all due respect this really IS rocket science.

177 posted on 02/01/2003 6:57:04 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profits!)
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To: OReilly
Lemme change gears slightly: what I really wanna know is what Martin Marietta (sorry -- Lockheed/Martin, Denver plant I believe) has recently started doing differently with putting foam onto the external fuel tank such that it's starting to fall off.

(Yes, I'm proceeding under the leap of logic that falling foam damaged multple tiles in the same area of the left wing. And that, compounded by NASA managers discounting the potential harm, led to the tragedy).

178 posted on 02/01/2003 6:57:18 PM PST by alancarp (hindsight is 20/20, but useless at a funeral)
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To: Republic of Texas
Sorry guys, but columbia did not have a docking mech for ths ISS, and the ISS was in the the wrong position, this was a science mission only, and that is what the Spacehab is for.
179 posted on 02/01/2003 6:58:01 PM PST by markman46
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To: cynwoody
Is this the second time a school teacher was on a shuttle flight?

If I recall correctly, the FIRST schoolteacher in space was on the Challenger when it went down.

Now this perhaps the SECOND teacher in space?

Perhaps school teachers are just plain bad luck to have aboard.

180 posted on 02/01/2003 6:58:02 PM PST by Mogger
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