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Shuttle Contact LOST-No Tracking Data During RE-Entry!
Nasa TV | 02/01/03 | GRRRR

Posted on 02/01/2003 6:16:05 AM PST by GRRRRR

Shuttle has NOT been heard from or seen on tracking radar since 0800Hrs CDT. No contact at Merrit Island tracking station, no voice comm...DEVELOPING.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: astronauts; columbia; columbiatragedy; disaster; du; feb12003; ilanramon; india; israel; nasa; ramon; revoltingevilduers; shuttle; space; spaceshuttle; sts107; unitedstates
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To: Afronaut
There was an astronaut from Israel onboard, the Shuttle exploded over TX. The media finds Palestine TX and then pin points it as the location of the explosion.

Then some people here are not smart enough to figure out that this is pure garbage. Go see how big Palestine TX is, I have. How high was the Craft? Please.... refuse to be duped

A command post has been set up in Palestine, Texas, doofus, as debris has been found there.

You're not very smart, pal. You also don't know much about Texas.

1,421 posted on 02/01/2003 8:44:10 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Inspectorette; MadIvan
It's as if God is testing him more severely than any president ever before.

I wouldn't say it's God....

But I do think someone/something is testing him.

1,422 posted on 02/01/2003 8:44:15 AM PST by Terriergal
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To: Moonman62
Yep. It will be interesting to see how much time lapsed between loss of communication, to re-entry, to explosion...

If the shuttle was spinning out of control, then odds are the crew was unable to correct it (meaning they could have already died due to internal failures such as pressure, oxygen, etc.)

1,423 posted on 02/01/2003 8:44:16 AM PST by rintense (Go Get 'Em Dubya!)
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To: Merdoug
Are you implying that the Israeli brought a bomb on board? If so, that's crazy.
1,424 posted on 02/01/2003 8:44:23 AM PST by AshleyMontagu
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To: kcvl
My grandmother always said "when you lie with dogs you get fleas". Stephanopolous followed them with eyes wide open. Please don't waste your empathy!
1,425 posted on 02/01/2003 8:44:25 AM PST by Patriotic Bostonian
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To: GRRRRR
Such a long thread, I don't want to get back to stuff that's way past . . . did you folks already touch on Dan Rather getting stung on air?
1,426 posted on 02/01/2003 8:44:41 AM PST by Bilbo
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Live Video Streams:
BBC World: http://202.174.129.100/bbc300k
CTV NewsNet: http://ctvbroadcast.ctv.ca/ctvlivehigh.asf
WFAA/Dallas (ABC): http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=5882
KPRC/Houston (and all IBSYS sites): http://mfile.akamai.com/7882/live/reflector:23961.ram
KHOU/Houston (CBS): http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=206531
CNN: http://www.itcom.itd.umich.edu/streaming/ram/avs03.ram
FOX News Channel: http://umtv-live.rs.itd.umich.edu/itcom/avs01.ram
NBC; NASA TV; MSNBC; KXAS/Dallas: http://www.msnbc.com/m/lv/default.asp?0cv=CA01

1,427 posted on 02/01/2003 8:44:44 AM PST by mhking
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To: E Rocc
That muslim woman who's eating the chip, don't you know?

She's the cause of all evil in the world.
1,428 posted on 02/01/2003 8:44:51 AM PST by The South Park Republican
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To: Archangelsk; All
Bears repeating:

Rick Hauck, the commander of the first shuttle mission after the Challenger disaster, is on MSNBC right now. He is speculating on two theories. What is interesting is the order of his speculation. The first one is not the loss of tiles, but the pitch attitude (40 degrees) on reentry and a possible loss of stable longitudinal control. He further stated that this is controlled and stabilized by small reentry rockets which line the shuttle up in the correct attitude. Unless I miss my guess, this is not a manual input from the pilot, but is done automatically by the onboard systems. I am quite sure that the code will be looked at during the investigation.

1,429 posted on 02/01/2003 8:44:56 AM PST by Archangelsk (Quote from a friend, "I'm SF, the world is my lane.")
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To: Admin Moderator
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
1,430 posted on 02/01/2003 8:45:03 AM PST by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor. Only YOU can prevent Freepathons!)
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To: AntiJen

1,431 posted on 02/01/2003 8:45:11 AM PST by RnMomof7 (God Bless America)
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To: OXENinFLA; All
Has NASA not learned their lesson on not launching in cold temps. If what I'm understanding is correct, ice falfrom the external fuel cell damaged some heat shields. Ice and cold temps were responsible for the Challenger. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
1,432 posted on 02/01/2003 8:45:13 AM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: mhking
thanks for the links to the live streams! im listening to Tony Snow right now.
1,433 posted on 02/01/2003 8:45:39 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: ppaul; GRRRRR
These beautiful people .. May they always shine and forever kiss the stars in peace .
1,434 posted on 02/01/2003 8:45:50 AM PST by Ben Bolt
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To: cbkaty
1,000 umbrellas couldn't catch all the wet that drained out of my head.
1,435 posted on 02/01/2003 8:45:52 AM PST by ChadGore
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To: alancarp
Is that the debris field??? They are now reporting debris in 2 counties in Arkansas on the local news. They governor just issued a directive about staying away from debris. I am in the upper right hand corner of that map.
1,436 posted on 02/01/2003 8:46:23 AM PST by sweetliberty (Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it)
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To: Inspectorette
Story here:

Crack issue not settled, but shuttle chief optimistic Columbia will launch on time

By Chris Kridler
FLORIDA TODAY

CAPE CANAVERAL -- Shuttle managers aren't yet satisfied with tests on parts like one that was cracked in Discovery, but the shuttle program chief is optimistic Columbia will launch Jan. 16 as scheduled. "The shuttle is OK to fly in every other respect," said Jessica Rye, a spokeswoman for shuttle contractor United Space Alliance. "But a decision on whether the parts are safe won't come until a review Tuesday."

Shuttle mission managers held a formal launch readiness review on Thursday at Kennedy Space Center, but they decided more testing was needed before Columbia is cleared for launch, shuttle program manager Ron Dittemore said.

"We don't have any real indications that look like this is going to be a show-stopper for us," he said.

Shuttle managers will review data from tests Sunday afternoon to make sure they are ready to proceed with the countdown, which gets under way overnight Sunday. The crew goes into quarantine today and will fly into Kennedy Space Center on Sunday.

The cracked part was a ball in a support inside a liquid oxygen line in Discovery, found during the orbiter's continuing overhaul. Inspectors found no cracks in Columbia, Atlantis or Endeavour.

There are three sizes of balls in liquid oxygen and hydrogen line supports, called ball strut tie rod assemblies. They range from 2 1/4 inches to 1 1/4 inches, and there are 18 in each shuttle.

Since Columbia is on the launch pad, shuttle managers hope to avoid inspecting it, which could cause a launch delay. Instead, they want to be sure that even if any of the balls are cracked, they won't pose a danger to the orbiter.

Laboratory tests were used to induce surface cracks in spare parts, and engineers experienced with similar problems -- namely, the cracked fuel-pipe liners that grounded the fleet last summer -- found their expertise useful in analyzing the balls, Dittemore said.

"The most likely scenario is that we have a ball in a vehicle that has a small surface defect, and that, under load, over time, has propagated into a small crack," he said.

New inspection techniques found small defects in spare balls that were missed two decades ago when the shuttles were put into operation, he said.

There are no immediate plans to remove the cracked ball from Discovery, he said, but NASA will have to evaluate whether some balls should be replaced if the shuttles are expected to fly for 20 more years. < /end of story >

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This story says cracks weren't found in Columbia, but Columbia wasn't even inspected.

1,437 posted on 02/01/2003 8:46:26 AM PST by ksen (HHD)
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To: amom
You're welcome, my friend.

Heartbroken in Miami...

1,438 posted on 02/01/2003 8:46:29 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: mewzilla
Col Ramon was involved in bombing the Osirak reactor in the early 1980's. He is legendary.
1,439 posted on 02/01/2003 8:46:30 AM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Lurking2Long
You want to see the histerical emails she's sending me?

And she's the one making them public, not me.

As I told her in private email, she and I agree on many things. I've defended here a number of times (Under another user name). But now I see why she gets into so many flame wars.

Sorry if the truth hurts.
1,440 posted on 02/01/2003 8:46:32 AM PST by The South Park Republican
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