To: John Lenin
Fascism is right-wing socialism, which is to say, nationalist socialism, as opposed to left-wing socialism, which is to say, internationalist socialism (communism).
Most socialists are somewhere on the continuum between the two extremes, and would be our "christian socialists", or "social democrats". Out on the extremes, you find the Stalinists and others of their ilk, who shoot dissenters.
The "left" and "right", actually, are a little deceptive, as the classic left-wing example was Stalin and the other Soviets, who promoted internationalist socialism, but this version always led back to Soviet control, which is to say, they used left-wing ideology to achieve a right-wing result.
Classic liberals, US-style conservatives, libertarians, are not a part of this continuum, they have no place in this left-right model.
18 posted on
01/30/2003 8:19:31 PM PST by
marron
To: marron
But there are left-wing forms of socialism that stress nationalism, such as North Korea's "Juche" ("self-reliance")
21 posted on
01/30/2003 8:26:46 PM PST by
xm177e2
(smile) :-)
To: marron
The "left" and "right", actually, are a little deceptive, as the classic left-wing example was Stalin and the other Soviets, who promoted internationalist socialism, but this version always led back to Soviet control, which is to say, they used left-wing ideology to achieve a right-wing result.
As with anything the government gets involved with the most extreme thing that can happen from an idea will eventually happen. Thats why we have to fight the socialist movement but socialism turns into communism every time.
26 posted on
01/30/2003 9:07:21 PM PST by
John Lenin
(Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in !)
To: marron
Bingo. We have a winner.
To: marron
Classic liberals, US-style conservatives, libertarians, are not a part of this continuum, they have no place in this left-right model. True, Capitalism is a different module. Think of it as a step progression whose starting module is Communism out of which grows Feudalism out of which grows Capitalism. If Capitalism cannot be sustained it will regress to either Feudalism or Communism. Each module has it's own left-right factions. Some models put this progression in a circle or even a spiral.
To: marron
Fascism is right-wing socialism, which is to say, nationalist socialism, as opposed to left-wing socialism, which is to say, internationalist socialism (communism). huh...?
dude, 'marron' is misspelled...put the pipe down and try again...
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