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U.S. Marines Closing Ranks With Special Operations
National Defense | February 1, 2003 | Harold Kennedy

Posted on 01/30/2003 7:38:20 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen

After 15 years of keeping its distance, the tradition-oriented U.S. Marine Corps is cooperating more closely with the unconventional U.S. Special Operations Command.

The two organizations are stepping up joint training exercises and deploying together more often in combat operations. The Marines have agreed "for the first time ever" to contribute a small unit to the Special Operations Command.

The end result, according to some insiders, eventually could be a major Marine organization within special operations, on a par with the Navy's Sea, Air and Land (SEAL) teams or the Army's Special Forces.

USSOCOM was formed in 1987 in an effort to improve the military services - ability to perform unconventional and sensitive operations.

The new command - headquartered at MacDill Air Force Base, in Tampa, Fla. - was to include all special operations forces in the U.S. armed services.

The Army, Navy and Air Force all contributed units. The Army provided Special Forces, Delta Force, Rangers, specialized helicopter units, psychological operations and civil affairs teams. The Navy supplied SEALs, special-boat units and SEAL-delivery teams. The Air Force established helicopter and C-130 squadrons equipped for special-operations missions.

Only the Corps opted out, choosing instead to develop Marine Expeditionary Units, which are trained to conduct maritime special operations. MEUs-each including 2,200 combat-equipped Marines, with helicopters, Harrier jets and armored vehicles - patrol the world's trouble spots in groups of amphibious assault ships.

While MEUs perform a variety of special operations, such as hostage rescues, embassy evacuations and recovery of downed pilots from hostile territory, the Corps did not turn them over to USSOCOM. Instead, the Marines retained control over their MEUs, arguing that they were needed in order to perform the service's basic mission - to project U.S. military power from the sea.

"Our highly trained, cost-effective, first-on-the-scene forces provide a much-needed special operations capability that is complementary, not redundant, to the mission of our nation's special operations forces," Marine Commandant Gen. Michael W. Hagee told a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing.

Although they have maintained their independence, Marines and special operators have cooperated from the beginning, said Lt. Col. Giles Kyser, head of the Marine Air Ground Task Force special operations section of the plans, policy and operations at the Corps' headquarters. The Corps routinely assigns individual Marines to regular tours of duty at USSOCOM, he told National Defense. Currently, he noted, 105 of them are filling such assignments.

Interaction between the two organizations has picked up during the war on terrorism. In Afghanistan, for example, Marine Brig. Gen. James N. Mattis commanded Task Force 58, which took Kandahar. It included 8,000 Marines and sailors, and it coordinated its efforts with special operations troops, Kyser said.

Another task force, headed by Marine Maj. Gen. John F. Sattler and including troops both from his service and special ops, has deployed to the Horn of Africa. Its mission is to help stabilize countries in that region, such as Somalia, Eritrea and Kenya, against terrorist activity.

A major reason for the heightened interaction is that USSOCOM needs the help. The command has approximately 46,000 troops, active duty and reserves, a small percentage of the 1.4 million active-duty personnel in all the services. Special operators deploy to about 140 countries on training, peacekeeping and humanitarian missions.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told reporters that the Marine Corps will be expected to develop a closer relationship with the special operations forces.

The Marine Corps has 173,000 troops, many of whom could fill special operations roles, Kyser noted.

In November 2001, then-commandant Gen. James Jones and Air Force Gen. Charles Holland, head of USSOCOM, signed a memorandum of agreement pledging greater cooperation.

"The time is right to enhance interoperability between USSOCOM and the Marine Corps in order to prosecute the global war on terrorism and to meet future challenges," Jones said.

Specifically, the MOA set up a board with representatives from special operations and the Marines to explore how the two organizations might do more together, Kyser said.

Action came quickly. In mid-2002, Marine Brig. Gen. Dennis Hejlik - until recently the commandant's military secretary - was named chief of staff at USSOCOM. He is the first Marine general officer ever assigned to special operations.

Later in the year, Marines from the U.S. European Command, in Stuttgart, Germany, began replacing Green Berets in a program to train soldiers in the former Soviet republic of Georgia. The training is intended to help Georgia defend itself against infiltration by Islamic rebels from next-door Chechnya, which is fighting for independence from Russia.

The Green Berets trained a Georgian commando battalion. The Marines are to instruct a mountain battalion, a light-infantry unit and a mechanized company team. Training will include tactics such as daylight company-level attacks, nighttime defensive operations and platoon-level patrols.

Experimental Unit

In 2002, a conference of special operators and Marines hammered out an agreement for a full Marine detachment to be assigned for the first time to USSOCOM, starting in 2004. The detachment is to be detailed to special operations as a two-year 'proof of concept,' an experiment to help figure out the organizational details of a more permanent unit, Kyser said.

The detachment, to be based initially at Camp Pendleton, Calif., already is taking shape. Key personnel are scheduled to report in March, with training to begin in June. The commander will be Lt. Col. Bob Coates, an infantry officer with a reconnaissance background, according to Kyser.

The detachment will consist of 81 hand-picked Marines and five Navy corpsmen, Kyser said. Included will be 22 people in a headquarters element, 30 reconnaissance specialists, 28 intelligence operators and six Marines providing fire support elements. "These will be very highly trained, well-seasoned men," he said.

The detachment will deploy with SEALs based at the Naval Amphibious Base in Coronado, Calif. Its mission will be to augment SEAL teams in conducting special reconnaissance missions and direct-action strikes to seize, recover or destroy designated personnel or materiel, he explained. The detachment also will participate in programs to help friendly nations protect their societies from subversion, lawlessness and insurgency.

The organization is designed to be flexible in size, Kyser said. It is possible - but not guaranteed - that it could grow into a Marine Corps Special Operations Command, resembling those of the other services.

"Almost anything is possible," Kyser said. ";This unit could grow into something very large, or it could stay the same size that it is now."

Either way, Kyser said, 'it can't help but improve the level of trust and comfort between special operations forces and the Marine Corps.'

Meanwhile, the Marines are taking steps to improve their ability to conduct special operations missions. A long-term effort is underway, for example, to strengthen the Corps' famed reconnaissance units.

Recon, as the specialty is known, trace its origins to the Marine Raider Battalions formed during World War II. Recon Marines are highly skilled infantrymen, qualified as paratroopers and scuba divers. They specialize in going behind enemy lines to gather information, conduct small raids, call in air strikes or naval gunfire, or help prepare the way for major combat operations.

Recon units were cut back during the budget reductions of the early 1990s, but now, in an era of repeated regional conflicts, their skills are back in demand.

To meet this need, the 1st Marine Division's reconnaissance company, at Camp Pendleton, in 2000 was increased to battalion strength, the same size it was a decade ago.

In 2002, the 2nd Force Reconnaissance Company, based at Camp Lejeune, N.C., was reassigned from the 2nd Marine Division to the II Marine Expeditionary Force, giving the MEF commander direct control over the company.

Late in 2002, the Corps extended the military occupational specialty for enlisted recon Marines (0321) all the way from private (E-1) through master gunnery sergeant (E-9).

Previously, Kyser explained, when a recon Marine was promoted to staff sergeant, he was switched to another job specialty, infantry team leader (0369).

As a result, the staff sergeant could be transferred out of the recon field, resulting in a needless loss of years of training and experience, Kyser said.

In addition to strengthening its recon units, the Marine Corps also is reactivating its active-duty Air Naval Gunfire Liaison Companies, known as ANGLICOs, Hagee told senators.

Fire Support

ANGLICO personnel provide fire support for allied military units. They routinely work with Marine recon and Army Special Forces units, requiring them to have the same level of training. This includes parachute, survival, pathfinder and helicopter rope-suspension schools.

Active-duty ANGLICO units were disbanded in 1997. Their duties were turned over to reservists. As a result, the 1st and 2nd ANGLICO units are scheduled to return to active duty later this year.

Also, Hagee said, fielding the troubled V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft will 'bring the Marine Corps and Air Force special operations forces closer together.' The Marines plan to acquire 360 of them, and the Air Force Special Operations Command wants 50.

Designed to transport 24 combat-equipped troops more than 500 nautical miles, the Osprey has been plagued by crashes in flight tests that killed 23 Marines in 2000.

Since then, the Osprey has been modified in an effort to correct the problems, and the test flights have been resumed.

When the Osprey completes flight testing, Marine and Air Force pilots and maintainers will train with the V-22 squadron at Marine Corps Air Station New River, N.C., Hagee said.

"The jointness that will occur at this training squadron will go a long way towards promoting closer understanding and coordination between Marine Corps and Air Force Special Operations aviation units," he said.

In many respects, special operations are nothing new for the Marine Corps, which "has been the expeditionary force for the United States since its inception in 1775," said retired Special Forces Col. Al DeProspero, who also served as a Marine.

The service accumulated extensive experience with counterinsurgency operations, first in the Caribbean and Central America during the early 20th century, then later in the Cold War and in Vietnam. Recent changes "merely mark a realization that the Marine Corps has a definitive role to play in low-intensity conflict and special operations," he said.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: lejeune; meu; oef; usmc
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1 posted on 01/30/2003 7:38:20 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
I often felt that there had to be some where the Marines could put those guys who were not quite up to 0311 standards.

Putting these, not quite good enough to be 0311, guys with Army and Navy 'special' forces, is a good place, hopefully it won't make them feel as inadequate and being in 'special forces' will give them funny little hats to wear. Kind of like special education in the publik skool system.

2 posted on 01/30/2003 7:51:35 AM PST by 2timothy3.16
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Within 50 years all the branches of the armed forces will be merged into one.
3 posted on 01/30/2003 7:57:08 AM PST by Gary Boldwater
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To: 2timothy3.16
Bump .... now we'll have 3 layers of troops to engage the enemy ....

From lowest to highest

Army
Marines
SOCOM

4 posted on 01/30/2003 7:57:45 AM PST by Centurion2000 (The meek shall inherit the Earth. The stars belong to the bold.)
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To: 2timothy3.16
Yep. Sure was nice of the SF to step aside so the marines could get some "self esteem" training. Maybe the SF will
teach them to speak additional languages (other than grunts and gurgles). ;)
5 posted on 01/30/2003 7:59:26 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: 2timothy3.16
Putting these, not quite good enough to be 0311, ......

unbelievable! How can a Marine not be good enough to be 0311? that's gotta be the oxymoron statement of the week! :-) to be less than 0311 is to be a civilian! (or airforce)

Semper Fi

6 posted on 01/30/2003 8:04:07 AM PST by JoeSixPack1 (BRASS - Breath, Release, Aim, Sight, Squeeze)
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To: 2timothy3.16
You are so right.

RECON
7 posted on 01/30/2003 8:06:12 AM PST by squirt
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To: 2timothy3.16
Putting these, not quite good enough to be 0311, guys with Army and Navy 'special' forces, is a good place, hopefully it won't make them feel as inadequate and being in 'special forces' will give them funny little hats to wear.

Care to clarify? The 0321's are like super 0311's, supposedly.

My C.O. back in 1982 had been a rifle company radio operator in Viet nam. He hated the recon guys. The regular rifle companies were always having to go and rescue them. I think this has more to do with the NVA being Sierra Hotel than anything else.

Ideally, the recon guys are better man for man than the line company grunts.

It should be remembered that the raiders were disbanded because the Marines didn't want eltism to lessen the quality of the line units. That is always something to consider.

I am a former 0311 and 0302 by the way.

Walt

8 posted on 01/30/2003 8:13:58 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: 2timothy3.16
I dunno, Timmy !

I was in Recon, and we did everything the Infantry pogues did... plus
Jumping out of airplanes that were in proper working order
Swimming a mile before breakfast - then running a mile to get the kinks out
Rubber boat playtime, from submarines
Playing snoop 'n poop around the barracks where infantry pogues were snoring their lives away
And other "good stuff" it still scares me to think about.

Sounds like you guys in 2nd Mess Kit Repair Battalion really had it rough !!

9 posted on 01/30/2003 9:30:25 AM PST by genefromjersey
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To: Gary Boldwater
Wrong...Marines will never wear a beret...
10 posted on 01/30/2003 9:40:00 AM PST by ken5050
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To: genefromjersey
I was in Recon, and we did everything the Infantry pogues did...

Unwarranted arrogance was probably another reason my skipper hated Recon.

Marines don't run down other Marines, lad.

Walt

11 posted on 01/30/2003 10:32:01 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Before we get into flame wars here, I suggest you look at post #9 ( I believe ) from 1st Timothy.
12 posted on 01/30/2003 1:13:13 PM PST by genefromjersey
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Care to clarify? The 0321's are like super 0311's, supposedly.

Not in my book, to my way of thinking, the USMC 0311 makes up the finest fighting force on earth.

We might have trouble with michale and his angles, but, not with any other fighting force on earth! 0321's are they really Marines?

13 posted on 01/30/2003 1:28:11 PM PST by 2timothy3.16
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To: genefromjersey
Ya ya, I know, then you guys go off in the woods and catch some z's. While we 0311's fight and win wars. swimming a mile, big deal, why we called it taking a bath.
14 posted on 01/30/2003 1:30:21 PM PST by 2timothy3.16
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To: Stand Watch Listen
To all the former Marines out there:

An ole Gunny in 6th Marines once told me that if you can't cut it in Kilo 3 6, you could always go to Recon, sniper school or, God forbid, artillary.

You could not pay him to lower himself to even mention Special Forces.

15 posted on 01/30/2003 1:33:11 PM PST by 2timothy3.16
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To: 2timothy3.16
Ya ya, I know, then you guys go off in the woods and catch some z's. While we 0311's fight and win wars. swimming a mile, big deal, why we called it taking a bath.

Don't rag on other Marines, lad.

Walt

16 posted on 01/30/2003 1:36:09 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Marines don't run down other Marines, lad.

Now wait a minute Walt, the only ones who can pick on fellow Marines are other Marines. Come on now aint it fun pickin on air wing and Recon?

Never ever pick on snipers, they'll shoot you in the foot from 1500 yards out. Besides that, I think snipers keep the 0311 MOS. I might be wrong about that, but seems to me the sniper in our company was a 0311.

17 posted on 01/30/2003 1:36:19 PM PST by 2timothy3.16
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To: genefromjersey
Before we get into flame wars here, I suggest you look at post #9 ( I believe ) from 1st Timothy.

I don't know what his gig is. I never had any problems with Recon Marines. I knew they took PT to another level. That's worthy of some respect right there.

Walt

18 posted on 01/30/2003 1:38:33 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: 2timothy3.16
Marines don't run down other Marines, lad.

Now wait a minute Walt, the only ones who can pick on fellow Marines are other Marines. Come on now aint it fun pickin on air wing and Recon?

Not in front of others. :)

Walt

19 posted on 01/30/2003 1:39:29 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: 2timothy3.16
Never ever pick on snipers, they'll shoot you in the foot from 1500 yards out. Besides that, I think snipers keep the 0311 MOS. I might be wrong about that, but seems to me the sniper in our company was a 0311.

I think they came out with a sniper MOS after Gunny Hathcock went to Quantico in about 1980 to run the sniper school. I served with him on the U.S.S. Simon Lake, BTW.

Walt

20 posted on 01/30/2003 1:41:22 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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