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Ads rushing out of Limbaugh show? Progressives take aim at radio program's sponsors
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Posted on 01/30/2003 5:23:41 AM PST by SirFishalot

Ads rushing out of Limbaugh show? Progressives take aim at radio program's sponsors By William Spain, CBS.MarketWatch.com Last Update: 12:04 AM ET Jan. 30, 2003

CHICAGO (CBS.MW) - A Rush to the exits?

Though still in its infancy, a letter-writing campaign aimed at advertisers on "The Rush Limbaugh Show," has already claimed a few choice scalps -- and hopes to soon have other marketers saying "ditto."

Kicked off last week on the website of a group called Take Back The Media, the effort is generating a growing buzz among online progressives (or, if you prefer, "liberals") -- along with hundreds of angry e-mails to companies that sponsor what it calls Limbaugh's "hateful chortling and guffawing."

Micheal Stinson, a Vietnam-era veteran, is co-founder of Take Back The Media. Obviously never a Rush fan, Stinson and his cohorts were content to largely ignore the king of reactionary talk radio -- until he weighed in on the recent anti-war protests, calling participants "anti-American," "anti-capitalist" and "communists," among other terms.

"He just went too far," said Stinson. "Don't call me anti-American. I served this country."

When he decided to go after Limbaugh, Stinson said "we were told we would have to nip at his heels, to start by contacting local advertisers." He ignored that advice, however, and posted a list, complete with contact information, of top sponsors.

"Within 18 hours, RadioShack (RSH: news, chart, profile) had folded. Within 36 hours, Amtrak was gone and Bose told us they were no longer advertising on the show," Stinson said.

Oddly, Stinson's group is not only telling the rest of the world which companies advertise on Limbaugh's show but, apparently, even the companies themselves.

In RadioShack's case, the company maintains that it does not buy ads on Limbaugh's show and any that did air were "the result of an "error made by the radio network or local affiliate."

RadioShack, the company continued, "strictly adheres to a policy of not intentionally buying advertising space on programs that might be political or socially controversial or that promote any one individual's agenda or point of view."

Amtrak says the ads aired as part of a complicated barter deal involving, strange but true, the San Francisco Convention and Visitors Bureau. It does not sponsor political shows and "'in the future...will communicate [that] practice to" other partners.

Although Stinson said he has reports of its ads appearing during the show, a spokeswoman for Bose told CBS.MarketWatch that its does not advertise on the program, "and has no intentions of doing so."

Other advertisers targeted by Take Back the Media include Darden Restaurants (DRI: news, chart, profile) Red Lobster chain, Pfizer (PFE: news, chart, profile) AutoZone (AZO: news, chart, profile) and online retailer Overstock.com (OSTK: news, chart, profile) -- none of which would comment.

Limbaugh is syndicated by Premiere Radio Networks, a subsidiary of radio behemoth Clear Channel Communications (CCU: news, chart, profile). While not addressing whether the show had lost any advertisers as a result of the boycott, Premiere issued the following written statement:

"There have been many times in the 15 year history of 'The Rush Limbaugh Program' when national and world events have generated increased listening as well as increased communication with individuals who have opposing points of view," said company president Kraig Kitchin. "The kind of compelling radio that generates opposition also causes Rush Limbaugh's weekly 20 million listeners to tune in that much more and listen longer."

That audience number is likely exaggerated (other estimates put it closer to 15 million) but there is no question that Limbaugh is big, big, big and one of medium's biggest single stars.

So, can a few scrappy liberals really hurt him?

Depends. A lot of radio time is bought pretty much on a commodity basis, with advertisers looking for dayparts and regions rather than specific programming. Many may not even know where their ads appeared until after the fact. And, unless they have given their buyers up-front marching orders to avoid him (already not uncommon), Limbaugh's powerful ratings guarantee a piece of that action. Of course, there are plenty of other options that can deliver similar numbers.

Whether or not the boycott works to any meaningful degree is going to depend on how many more advertisers decide it is easier to switch than fight. According to radio buyers, some companies cave almost instantly in the face of even a little negative feedback while others need to experience a truly sustained and widespread level of complaints before they listen.

Still, they don't have to get them all to make a difference: If enough advertisers put out the word that the show is a forbidden zone -- and they are not rapidly replaced -- the program will lose much of its economic value to local stations and station groups regardless of how well its audience numbers are doing. Of course, the already-loaded Limbaugh is never going to have trouble putting food on the table, but he and his fans could end up in less desirable timeslots or on fewer outlets.

Historically, the boycott approach has a mixed record. One of the most effective boycotts of recent times was against Viacom (VIA: news, chart, profile) unit VH-1's "Music Behind Bars," a program that showcased the jailhouse jams of murderers, rapists and assorted other scum. An outcry from victim's rights groups, law enforcement officials and politicians had advertisers staying away in droves and the cable network quickly pulled the plug on the series. (Viacom is a significant shareholder in MarketWatch.com, the publisher of this report.)

The "Christian" right's attack on "NYPD Blue" in the early 1990s, on the other hand, was a complete failure. It initially scared off some marketers but the program's ratings and demographics were so good that it attracted business from sectors that don't sell to religious nuts anyway -- including movies, beer, cosmetics, designer clothing, etc. And the effort completely fell apart when the first big package-goods company (Unilever (UN: news, chart, profile), if memory serves) jumped in. "Blue" eventually went to become one of the most enduring and profitable shows in Disney (DIS: news, chart, profile) unit ABC's prime-time line-up.

What makes this attempt particularly interesting is that progressives typically eschew ad boycotts both for free speech reasons and because it is a favorite technique of their ideological opponents.

Stinson, however, is unapologetic about tearing a page out of the other team's playbook: "We are going to employ the tactics of those people -- and it's already working. We are hitting some nerves." William Spain is a reporter for CBS.MarketWatch.com in Chicago.


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It's time for our own letter writing campaign.
1 posted on 01/30/2003 5:23:41 AM PST by SirFishalot
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To: SirFishalot
RadioShack, the company continued, "strictly adheres to a policy of not intentionally buying advertising space on programs that might be political or socially controversial or that promote any one individual's agenda or point of view."

That eliminates anything on CBS, ABC, NBC or CNN.

2 posted on 01/30/2003 5:26:49 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: SirFishalot
Well then 20 million of us will boycott any company that pulls its ads. We can play this game better than these losers. Anyway, CBS is just dreaming if they think this will work. In their dreams.
3 posted on 01/30/2003 5:30:47 AM PST by speedy
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To: SirFishalot
The title of this article is a perfect example of the ignorance that conservatives--who claim to love all things constitutional--nevertheless exhibit regarding the constitution.

It is not "anti-First Amendment" for anyone to try to pressure show sponsors. If this were true, then nearly every successful such campaign by social conservative groups like the American Family folks in Mississippi or Dobson's "Focus on the Family" organization are also "anti-First Amendment."

I admit that I grow tired of the hypocrisy shown here on FR. What's good for the goose, and all that.

If we can "FReep," then the Libs can do whatever their version of same is.

You're right; do your own letter-writing campaign, but to be honest this is a tempest in a teapot. No intelligent sponsor of Rush's show is going away anytime soon, because they know they can reach the target audience they desire by advertising there.

Why don't we pay attention to matters that actually make a dime's worth of difference in this world?

N.B. I'm alerting the moderators to change the title of this to the ORIGINAL title, which is the policy on FR so that the number of duplicate posts can be reduced. Also, it's embarrassing to show the world how ignorant FReepers are on the Constitution.

4 posted on 01/30/2003 5:31:05 AM PST by Illbay
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To: SirFishalot
Boycott RadioShack thugs.

I would wager that the vast majority of RadioShack customers are Republicans.
5 posted on 01/30/2003 5:33:41 AM PST by moyden
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To: speedy
You said it all. I can go to a Radio Shack and Red Lobster in 1 half hour lunch break and deliver my message in person.
6 posted on 01/30/2003 5:33:42 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: SirFishalot
I know our FReeps against Salon work!

In fact if you want to help, Mercedes is their largest advertiser/underwriter. Give 'em a call.

The link below is to Mercedes Corp...click on "General Requests & Comments" or call 'em @:

•Call us at: 1-800-FOR-MERCEDES

link to Mercedes USA

7 posted on 01/30/2003 5:36:37 AM PST by Drango (don't need no stinkin' tag line)
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To: SirFishalot
Already posted here.
8 posted on 01/30/2003 5:41:01 AM PST by TomServo
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To: Illbay
Anyone remember the orange juice boycott? Rush asked people not to write in which led to a flood of mail
pouring in to the Orange Juice Board. The people organizing the boycott against Rush can not compete with
him. About 3% of his 20 million audience will write letters. Do the math!
9 posted on 01/30/2003 5:45:48 AM PST by Mustard Plaster
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To: Illbay
Thanks for the lecture. I needed that.
10 posted on 01/30/2003 5:54:11 AM PST by Russ
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To: Illbay
Sadly....I'm in full agreement with you....IMHO an understanding of the "concepts" of the Constitution is the first step needed to right the Republic....without that...liberals and conservatives alike will find themselves in the same empty pit.. only to realize they arrived there from different directions...
11 posted on 01/30/2003 6:09:14 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: SirFishalot
(Viet Nam Era Vet)..."He just went too far," said Stinson. "Don't call me anti-American. I served this country."

Since I am a Viet Nam Vet...and I served my (not this) country too...I'll call you anti-American you scumbag!

12 posted on 01/30/2003 6:32:14 AM PST by borisbob69
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To: moyden
And as for the vast majority of customers of Amtrak, they don't vote.
13 posted on 01/30/2003 6:36:26 AM PST by Mr. Toobeley
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To: SirFishalot
"He just went too far," said Stinson. "Don't call me anti-American. I served this country. [And as we all know, and as Johns McCain and Kerry have proved, that grants me lifetime immunity from criticism of anything I ever do or say, ever!]"

Right?

Dan

14 posted on 01/30/2003 6:37:09 AM PST by BibChr (Jesus -- not our feelings -- is the truth!)
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To: Illbay
If we can "FReep," then the Libs can do whatever their version of same is.

I believe that the left created all means of civil defiance. Some Freepers mimic a few of these actions such as boycotting advertisers. No one should disagree that such action is fair for both sides under our system.

Also what are your feelings on the Left’s tactics such as riots, burning, and stealing. Are these also constitutionally protected actions?

15 posted on 01/30/2003 6:56:47 AM PST by Lockbox
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To: SirFishalot; Mudboy Slim; PhiKapMom; MeeknMing; holdonnow; glock rocks; Mo1; Peacerose; Howlin; ...
Kicked off last week on the website of a group called Take Back The Media, the effort is generating a growing buzz among online progressives (or, if you prefer, "liberals") -- along with hundreds of angry e-mails to companies that sponsor what it calls Limbaugh's "hateful chortling and guffawing."

Peaceniks are being treated meanly by one little radio host out of the whole leftist local, national, international mainstream entertainment newsmedia and the left is upset. Radio Shack, you chose unwisely.

progressives (or, if you prefer, "liberals")

(or, if you care about accuracy, "Communists")

16 posted on 01/30/2003 8:13:32 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (289 Million Americans Avoid Peace Rallies. Press cover-up bigger than Watergate!)
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To: SirFishalot
Ha. "Progressives" The political element that dares not speak its own name. "Left" is out, "socialist" and all its synonyms have been exposed, "liberal" has been shamed, so now they're trying to hide behind the label "progressive."
17 posted on 01/30/2003 8:25:02 AM PST by Eala (Proud to be a right-wing conservative!)
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To: SirFishalot; Mudboy Slim; PhiKapMom; MeeknMing; holdonnow; glock rocks; Mo1; Peacerose; Howlin; ...
Whoops! I'm sorry....missed Tom's #8, over 200 posts on the original thread - don't miss #24. It took defenders of liberty only a few hours to send the Rats back to their holes and gain back our territory. Cool!
18 posted on 01/30/2003 8:25:37 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (289 Million Americans Avoid Peace Rallies. Press cover-up bigger than Watergate!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; Grampa Dave; vannrox
I bought much more Orange Juice back when the Leftist, ANTI-American RATS FReeped that Anita Bryant lady, so I reckon I'll haveta buy me a SleepMaster bed and a BOSE Audio System and whatever else it takes to reward the advertisers for helping to get Limbaugh's message to as many of the 25 Million folks as is possible!!

RATS're DOLTS, they really really are...MUD

BTW...this might be a good time to BEGIN the Boycott of all Advertisers who support ABC News Programs!!

19 posted on 01/30/2003 8:38:19 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Bob Barr Fer Assistant Attorney General...NOW!!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Make that a boycott of ABCNNBCBS! Then you have it covered.

However, I get the feeling after Teddy Fonda took the one way walk off of the AOLTW pier, that CNN could be sold or put up for bid.
20 posted on 01/30/2003 8:44:26 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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