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americans can't say 'no' to would-be immigrants it seems. But when we do have the presence of mind to see that we should preserve and protect america from excessive and illegal immigration, then Europe may quickly follow our lead. It is a myth that we cannot quickly and easily do away with new illegal immigration.

If we were to have the government use its' social security database to identify the illegals in the workforce and then require the employer to let the person go, then the illegal alien problem would be cured inexpensively and immediately. However, it would be our obligation to provide some sort of amnesty. And you know no such law can be passed without amnesty. Our goal should be only to shut down new illegal immigration and accept amnesty for 90% of the rest.

We need to have public campaigns and ask our people who's in charge, us or the elites on a wide range of issues, including this one. Then we need to publicly humiliate and vote out all politicians, democrat or republican, who fail to support the will of the majority on issues such as illegal immigration. We should not care who we vote in. Then, we should play the same trick when the new guy comes up for re-election. This is the only strategy that will work.

The decision was made in 1986 in the simpson-mazoli act for our nation to not use the social security data bank to identify illegals. This one decision made law enforcement dysfunctional and unable to stop the illegal immigration. Reagan was originally all in favor of the bill because it was going to have them weed out the illegals by determining in the payroll records who had illegals hired. But the new world order people in the senate put lines of code in the bill that would short-circuit our ability to use these payroll/ssn records. Reagan signed the bill reluctantly. It was 86, he was beaten down by then. We can un-do that decision and I'm sure Reagan would want us to. I'm sure reagan today would regret selecting ghw bush as vp.

If we were to have the government use its' social security database to identify the illegals in the workforce and then require the employer to let the person go, then the illegal alien problem would be cured inexpensively and immediately. However, it would be our obligation to provide some sort of amnesty. And you know no such law can be passed without amnesty. Our goal should be only to shut down new illegal immigration and accept amnesty for 90% of the rest.

No dice. Never. Amnesty for Illegals is the root of the problem, not the solution.

We need to have public campaigns and ask our people who's in charge, us or the elites on a wide range of issues, including this one. Then we need to publicly humiliate and vote out all politicians, democrat or republican, who fail to support the will of the majority on issues such as illegal immigration.

The will of the people is for no Amnesty. You're an advocate for the elites. Your 90% Amnesty proposal is far more corrosive than anything GWB has yet proposed, and he's been a flat-out weasel thus far on Illegals.
Please, rethink your post.

I should hope those committing felony crimes by using stolen and fraudulent Social Security numbers would not ever be given amnesty ---it's certainly a felony for an American to present fraudulent documents and should be for foreigners. "Some sort of amnesty" could actually be possible but I'm not sure it's necessary at all ---if someone made the choice to come here illegally, I don't know why we have to bend over backward all the time to fix their situation when they could have done that themselves. Also if there has to be amnesty, it shouldn't be given to those who used taxpayer money ever, only to those who have paid their own way ----including their own health care. Bush said it would be for those who have committed "no other crimes" and I would hope that includes shoplifting, welfare fraud, DWI, driving without insurance, failure to register with the draft and all the rest. If Bush kept the promise that it would only be to those who completely followed every other law and were never taxpayer burdens, there would be few who could be given amnesty.

Our goal should be only to shut down new illegal immigration and accept amnesty for 90% of the rest.

Why 90%? Many of the 20 million illegals have arrived in just the past few years and aren't assimilated, have no steady employment or any real reason to be here. If they're begging for jobs in a Home Depot parking lot, they aren't self-sufficient enough to be given permanent status. I could see a trade-off of some amnesty with elimination of all welfare to immigrants including free health care and WIC and an end to the anchor baby problem and other family "reunification" so that the foreign elderly can't be brought in to collect SSI and Medicaid just because they have family here.