Posted on 01/27/2003 1:25:59 PM PST by Spiff
By Tim Steller
© 2003 Arizona Daily Star
A National Park Service ranger cited militia leader Chris Simcox Sunday for carrying a loaded weapon and operating without a permit at Coronado National Memorial in southeastern Arizona.
The chief ranger at the park south of Sierra Vista, Thane Weigand, said it appeared Simcox and William Dore were conducting a patrol of the border. "They were doing a special activity inside the park that's not sanctioned by the park," Weigand said.
Simcox, founder of the Tombstone group Civil Homeland Defense, has been conducting citizen patrols of the border area, but he said that's not what he was doing Sunday afternoon. He said he was simply hiking with Dore.
They were driving along Border Road when they came to a fence with a sign that said no vehicles were permitted, Simcox said. So they parked the van and walked past the fence along the road, not knowing the fence was the park boundary, Simcox said.
"Next thing I know, there's somebody waiting in the bushes for us," Simcox said.
It was a park ranger, who said she had been watching the pair, knew who they were and what they were up to, Simcox said. He and Dore were detained for about 3 1/2 hours, and some belongings were seized, Simcox said. Those belongings included a scanner, two two-way radios, his camera, a cell phone and his pistol.
Weigand said the charges against Simcox and Dore are misdemeanors.
What borders?
..not knowing the fence was the park boundary, Simcox said.
Preposturous.
How many times did the USS John F. Kennedy blow up, Joe?
They should be deported, but this hardly backs up your thesis.
It's like America getting beat over the head by 15 million criminals, and if one American stands up to fight off this brutal attack, he gets speared by these same individuals.
With a couple of these individuals, I feel like I am selling American flags at a Ali Baba rally in downtown Bagdad.
Konservatives? LOL!
Even if the judge were to allow those quotes to be entered into evidence, that would be at time of trial, and as I explained, the Demurrer would prevent the case from ever reaching the trial phase.
--Boot Hill
Come close and listen. Just hush up a second and close mouth, and listen.
ILLEGAL ALIENS CRAWLING ALL OVER OUR WARSHIPS IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE AND A NATIONAL SECURITY NIGHTMARE, AND IT SURE THE HELL NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE .
There, I feel better.......
Whats amazing, is this needed to be said....Jezzzz
Come close and listen. Just hush up a second and close mouth, and listen.
ILLEGAL ALIENS CRAWLING ALL OVER OUR WARSHIPS IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE AND A NATIONAL SECURITY NIGHTMARE, AND IT SURE THE HELL NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE .
There, I feel better.......
Whats amazing, is this needed to be said....Jezzzz
And further more, if I were in charge of that damn shipyard, f-ing heads would be rolling from the dry dock to the damn oval office. I would be standing on the Presidents desk asking WTF is going on here??? I would go after those contractors and anyone else that was responsible with vengeance!
This is absolutely pitiful weak bull sh*t.
As you were, PRND21.....
Even if you had a quote of him saying "National Park" lands (and your use of "ostensibly" suggest you don't), and even if you could convince a judge to admit such evidence, the case would never get that far, because it would be dismissed after the hearing on the motion for Demurrer on 5th and 14th Amendment grounds.
Cultural Jihad says: "This constitutes not only a mob, but an armed mob."
Again, I have to disagree with you, CJ, especially your characterization of the citizens border patrol. This is neither a "mob" nor a "vigilance" committee. Notwithstanding this current dust up over possessing a gun on National Park property, this is a group of citizens exercising their lawful right to effect a citizens arrest and to inform law enforcement of crimes in progress.
Cultural Jihad says: "As such they can be considered as enemy combatants under anti-terrorism laws."
They haven't taken up arms against the government, only against criminals. They are entitled by law to do so. I have made an armed citizen's arrest, CJ. Am I an enemy combatant, too? If you had helped me effect that arrest, would we be a "vigilante mob"? To compare such otherwise law abiding citizens, as the citizen's border patrol, as being actual enemy combatants like "Johnny Jihad", is (in my mind) a defamation you should be ashamed to make.
--Boot Hill
Nor does The F(antasy) Troop.
Great, you just made me spit my Fresca all over the keyboard!
Boot
This is an example of how a poster with 0 credibility can still manage to sink to new lows.
dirtboy responds: "Exactly...If someone wants to engage in civil disobedience regarding these laws, more power to them." 62
Dead Corpse responds: "Yes. They should have defended their property against 'official oppression'." 73
Saying something like that on Jim Robinson's forum is just about the stupidest thing I can imagine anyone ever posting here. What could motivate you to say something that idiotic? Are you guys intentionally trying to get FR shut down? Are you guys undercover informants for the BATF? Are you trying to work off a stiff federal criminal sentence by compromising FR posters in exchange for leniency? Are you disruptors sent over here from DU to discredit FR? Or do you just lack the brains God gave a piss ant?
--Boot Hill
They knew where the international border was. They didn't cross that. They crossed the boundary of the national park. The international border and the national park boundary are two different things. Understand?
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