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Disarming William Tell?
Radio Netherlands ^ | 01-23-03 | Bob Kroon

Posted on 01/26/2003 6:15:16 AM PST by SJackson

Patrons of the Dynamik snackbar, take note: "No firearms in this restaurant.''

But that does not apply to Dynamik owner and arms dealer Ricardo Teixeira. Two .44 Magnums are in full view on the bar and Ricardo totes a Czech CZ pistol and a 9 mm Heckler & Koch in side holsters. Outside, the shooting range reverberates with the staccato of small-arms fire.

A Hollywood film stage in Texas? Not exactly. Dynamik is a canteen-plus-armoury in the Geneva countryside, and there are hundreds of such establishments in peaceful Switzerland.

The number of firearms in this Alpine country is a multiple of the seven-million population, reflecting the Swiss tradition of the arms-bearing citizen, the heritage of the legendary William Tell, the 13th century national hero – even if his existence has never been proven.

The arms supermarket of Europe

Like used cars, small arms can be freely traded in Switzerland, or legally purchased in dozens of armouries or via the Internet.

The Swiss army is a national militia, with an army rifle in the home of every able-bodied citizen. So far, no problem. Swiss criminals may settle their scores with knives or clubs, but usually leave the official shooting-iron alone.

But even in this placid Alpine country times are changing. In 2001 a deranged burgher used his army weapon to decimate the cantonal parliament of Zug. Last year guns blazed in more than a dozen bloody family feuds.

To curb the mayhem and counter Switzerland's reputation as the ‘arms supermarket of Europe', the federal government wants to enact stringent arms control laws.

In the future, gun aficionados or collectors will need official permits to buy or exchange their hardware and police can search homes without warning for ‘particularly dangerous weapons,' – such as the lethal 50 BMG, a favourite toy of one shooting club in the Bernese Oberland. This long-range sniper's rifle with laser-scope can knock out an armoured personnel carrier from a distance of one kilometre.

Pro-Tell lobby

But the Swiss arms lobby is no less militant than its American brothers-in-arms of the National Rifle Association. The ‘Pro-Tell' lobby, grouping hundreds of thousands weekend-shooters, is lambasting the government project as "a sinister attempt to disarm the people.'' The new rules, Pro-Tell darkly warns, herald "a slide toward dictatorship."

But polls suggest that a majority of the people, women in particular, are in favour of shackling the gun toters, tradition or no. Ultimately, the issue may be decided in a nationwide referendum.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: banglist; copernicus5

1 posted on 01/26/2003 6:15:16 AM PST by SJackson
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To: *bang_list
*bang_list
2 posted on 01/26/2003 6:16:50 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Bad people will do bad things regardless. The overall # of
crimes in Switzerland is really small. How many of these
recent incidences were done by people who immigrated there
as opposed to nationals? I would still feel safer there than
the U.K.
3 posted on 01/26/2003 6:44:09 AM PST by squibs
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To: SJackson
"In the future, gun aficionados or collectors will need official permits to buy or exchange their hardware and police can search homes without warning for ‘particularly dangerous weapons,' – such as the lethal 50 BMG, a favourite toy of one shooting club in the Bernese Oberland. This long-range sniper's rifle with laser-scope can knock out an armoured personnel carrier from a distance of one kilometre.

BWAHAHAHAHA! What ridiculous hyperbole from the anti-gun nutcases.

4 posted on 01/26/2003 6:44:12 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: squibs
P.S.
Don't ever let them take away your guns. Immediately vote out
any politician who advocates such a move.
Stay Free !!
5 posted on 01/26/2003 6:45:57 AM PST by squibs
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To: All
Swiss Gun Laws- and some rebuttal to HCI "spin"-- Thread II
6 posted on 01/26/2003 6:50:08 AM PST by backhoe
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To: SJackson
My beloved Switzerland under a PC attack.

May they never be feminized.

8 posted on 01/26/2003 7:40:59 AM PST by Ches
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To: SJackson
What is it with the women? Sarah Brady. Barb Boxer. FeinSwine. Hitlery. Now these Swiss wenches.

Thank the Gods I married one that like the Big Iron. She doesn't like my 9mm, but loves the kick from the .357. Wants a .40 for herself.

9 posted on 01/26/2003 7:58:14 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
It's almost a shame that the Swiss enfranchised the female vote. Women excel at the micro level, men at the macro. As it has always been. (Spare me the anecdotal excceptions, please. I know...I know...)
10 posted on 01/26/2003 8:33:18 AM PST by szweig
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To: SJackson; All
Let's keep our eyes on this referendum. Switzerland recently joined the UN--also a bad sign.
11 posted on 01/26/2003 8:34:46 AM PST by GunsareOK
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To: Wonder Warthog
This long-range sniper's rifle with laser-scope can knock out an armoured personnel carrier from a distance of one kilometre.

BWAHAHAHAHA! What ridiculous hyperbole from the anti-gun nutcases

Can anyone explain to me, optically, how this could possibly work? Laser light travels in a straight line. Bullets don't. Also, even with optics, I don't think one is going to see a laser dot 1,000 feet away unless the laser itself is powerful enough to be used as a deliberately-targeted blinding weapon.

12 posted on 01/26/2003 8:38:19 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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1000 feetmeters away
13 posted on 01/26/2003 8:38:52 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: SJackson
This long-range sniper's rifle with laser-scope can knock out an armoured personnel carrier from a distance of one kilometre.

Do long-distance shooters even use laser scopes to take long-range shots?

14 posted on 01/26/2003 8:39:50 PM PST by xm177e2 (smile) :-)
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To: supercat
Can anyone explain to me, optically, how this could possibly work? Laser light travels in a straight line. Bullets don't.

You can correct for bullet drop by lowering the angle of the laser, but that only works if you calibrate it to a specific distance.

15 posted on 01/26/2003 8:40:38 PM PST by xm177e2 (smile) :-)
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To: xm177e2
You can correct for bullet drop by lowering the angle of the laser, but that only works if you calibrate it to a specific distance.

I suppose one could construct a laser-spotter with a calibrated distance scale, but that still leaves open the question of why one would bother. If one is using optics, they'll illustrate the proper point of aim more clearly at 1000m than would a laser, and if not using optics it's unclear how one will see a target well enough to know what to aim for. I suppose there might be some usefulness to having a combination of a laser and a scope, if the laser were above the scope and aimed down at a calibrated angle; in such case, the distance between the laser spot and the cross-hair point would indicate the distance to the target. Something other than the normal crosshairs would probably be good there, though; perhaps an "X"? [BTW, I've been toying with the idea of rotating my scope to show an "X" instead of a "+"; has anyone done this?

16 posted on 01/26/2003 9:08:20 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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Next thing you know, they will maintain 50 BMGs shoot "smart" bullets, making optical and laser sights totally irrelevant, giving 50s the abilities to take out underground bunkers. Ha ha ha ha. If it weren't so sick the absurdity would be humorous.
17 posted on 01/27/2003 5:37:21 AM PST by Ches
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