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Muslims hail Dutch defeat of Fortuyn List party
telegraph.uk ^ | Filed: 24/01/2003 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 01/24/2003 2:53:36 PM PST by Nachum

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1 posted on 01/24/2003 2:53:36 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Muslims laugh now, but Fortuyn's message has gone mainstream, and his death elevated that female dissident to a very prominent position (there's nothing Muslims hate more than a former Muslim).
2 posted on 01/24/2003 3:01:08 PM PST by xm177e2 (smile) :-)
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bump, ping.
3 posted on 01/24/2003 3:01:44 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Nachum
bumpers

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4 posted on 01/24/2003 3:07:51 PM PST by prisoner6 ( I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered! I am a FREE MAN!)
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To: Nachum
When the islamis refer to their own situation, they corrall all other 'minorities' into their grievances. The only time they do. People from India were apparently some of the biggest supporters of Pim(RIP).
5 posted on 01/24/2003 3:08:20 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Nachum
I pity the Dutch. I read on another thread that 50% of the school age population of Rotterdam is now muslim.

I fear the Europeans are finally waking up to this catastrophe in their midst too late.
6 posted on 01/24/2003 3:11:38 PM PST by ricpic
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"What's happening is beginning to feel like the 1930s when the Jews were scapegoated for the Depression, except this time it's the Muslims."

Uh-huh. Except that in the 1930s the Jews hadn't done anything wrong - it was just paranoia. The Dutch Jews weren't organized into terrorist cells, or publicly calling for wifebeating, or declaring jihad on society.

7 posted on 01/24/2003 3:12:40 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Nachum
Since when is being "anti-muslim-flooding" racism?

Being a muslim isnt a race, its a religion. Its vile to hate someone because of their genetic make up, pigmentation, or heritage. I dont think wariness over people's life choices and religious-political affiliations is quite in the same league.

Thats sad when a racist doesnt even have to hate a race, just be wary of a religion that, when in control of a country, seems conducive to torture, violence, and hatred.
8 posted on 01/24/2003 3:14:09 PM PST by CaptainJustice (Support our troops as they take out the trash of the world!)
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To: wideawake
Or committing most all of the rapes. The Netherlands will have an easier time cleansing itself of this vermin because they are much smaller than us.
9 posted on 01/24/2003 3:16:34 PM PST by johnb838 (deconstruct the left)
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To: CaptainJustice
We must always be aware that the muslim fanatics will use ANY influence that they can including using our own freedom and tolerance against us. But they're weenies.
10 posted on 01/24/2003 3:18:51 PM PST by johnb838 (deconstruct the left)
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"What's happening is beginning to feel like the 1930s when the Jews were scapegoated
for the Depression, except this time it's the Muslims."


Except this time you jerks (Muslims) aren't scapegoats...YOU ARE THE PROBLEM...
Well, actually your ideology (disguised as a monotheistic religion) has caused
the current recession/depression.
The slow, lingering death of commercial aviation, aggravation of the drop in
financial markets, provoking the need to divert resources into military/defense
hardware...

The actions of Islamic murderers is the direct, undeniable cause.

For anyone who caused one of the normal "troughs" of the business cycle to become
a very deep, long-lived valley...I can't think of ANY reason to like them...
Too bad you jerks didn't understand we have a President in place who won't put up
with murdering of our citizens...
11 posted on 01/24/2003 3:22:34 PM PST by VOA
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Having spent 2 years in Holland and living in the old west of Rotterdam for 1 year (right across from that mosque) I can tell you first hand of the dire situation in Holland.

The majority of the muslims in Holland want nothing to do with Holland other than exploit the social services system and conduct organised crime. The proceeds are then funneled to the countries of origin (eg. Turkey, Morroco).

The prisions are filled (about 75% to 85%) with these muslims. The lax dutch court system generally gives these people extremely lienent sentences. It is not uncommon for a person to recieve 2 years for murder. This only exabercates the situation over there.

These people dont intermingle with the native population and have no interest becoming dutch (unlike the surinam and indonesian populations which have integerated nicely).

Imagine the current crisis with illegal aliens in the US times 100 and that is holland.

The problem in holland is that there is a very strong communist (socialist) party there that did not like the popular Pim Fortuyn movement. They used there powers (print and tv brainwashing) and crushed this popular movement.

The commies like immigration ... its easier to argue the need for a welfare state.
12 posted on 01/24/2003 3:30:12 PM PST by ccc_jr
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To: Nachum
let's pray for Holland. They have been a great country for centuries IMHO.
13 posted on 01/24/2003 3:31:48 PM PST by Red Jones
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To: ccc_jr
Wow, a first person report from someone who should know. Thanks for sharing. I bet a lot more people here would like to hear more of your experiences.
14 posted on 01/24/2003 3:37:08 PM PST by Nachum
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Today reminds me of the 1940s when the
Nazis were the scapegoats blamed for WWII
the slaughter of tens of millions, brutality
etc.
Similary Muslims are blamed for terrorism,
repression, widespread murder etc...
15 posted on 01/24/2003 3:42:23 PM PST by Princeliberty
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Similary Muslims are blamed for terrorism, repression, widespread murder etc...

Blamed? What are you really saying?

16 posted on 01/24/2003 3:48:41 PM PST by Nachum
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To: ccc_jr
The problem in holland is that there is a very strong communist (socialist) party there that did not like the popular Pim Fortuyn movement. They used there powers (print and tv brainwashing) and crushed this popular movement. The commies like immigration ... its easier to argue the need for a welfare state.

This is so hideous. It's like watching a friend be slowly eaten up with cancer.

17 posted on 01/24/2003 4:26:32 PM PST by wizardoz (Guess I'm a "religionist.")
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To: ricpic
>>I pity the Dutch.

Yeah.. Especially their kids who are "legally" featured in porno mags and movies..
18 posted on 01/24/2003 4:30:19 PM PST by a_Turk (The price of oil is always high.. Question is who pays it.)
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To: Nachum
It was their firebrand imam, Khalil el-Moumni, who set off the political whirlwind 18 months ago by calling Europeans "lower than pigs" for tolerating homosexuality

With adults. But hey, if you've got a small boy you want to bugger, then by all means....

Fruitcakes.

19 posted on 01/24/2003 4:40:58 PM PST by DAnconia55
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Yeah.. Especially their kids who are "legally" featured in porno mags and movies..

Yeah, they could be bought and sold "illegally" in Turkey instead.

20 posted on 01/24/2003 4:50:57 PM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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