[tpaine]

"If we could have such a discussion, I might even invite tpaine. Well, afterward, anyway, eh tp?"
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How droll.
You claim to want "substantial discussions about pragmatic solutions", but every time the obvious & constitutional solution is mentioned: --
-- That of restoring reasonable regulations [not prohibitions] at state/local levels, -- you simply deny that this is acceptable.

[unspun]

but every time the obvious & constitutional solution is mentioned: -- -- That of restoring reasonable regulations [not prohibitions] at state/local levels, -- you simply deny that this is acceptable.

Well, I don't think you'll find unanimous agreement on your interpretation of the limitations of state governments, even among more constitutionally strict and substance-liberal posters.

[unspun]

But please feel free.