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Penn & Teller ridicule Christ's crucifixion
WorldNetDaily ^ | Posted: January 20, 2003 | unknown

Posted on 01/20/2003 3:07:38 PM PST by Houmatt

The magic-comedy team of Penn & Teller has performed a stunt parodying the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, offending some attendees of a major magicians' convention, reports columnist Norm Clarke of the Las Vegas Review.

The skit, performed last week in Las Vegas, included Teller, dressed as Christ on a full-size cross, entering the room on a cart. According to the column, a midget dressed as an angel "performed a simulated sex act on the near-naked Teller." Penn, in a Roman gladiator costume, unveiled the scene by pulling away a "Shroud of Turin" that covered the cross.

A group of people attending the event, billed as a roast of magician Amazing Johnathan, walked out in protest, says Clarke.

According to Rick Neiswonger, a longtime magician and marketing executive, said "the majority" of the 400 who attended the roast were offended.

"They (organizers) warned everybody that something offensive was going to happen, but my God, where do you draw the line? … This was beyond bad taste," Neiswonger told the Review.

One magician, Lance Burton, defended the stunt in an address at the finale luncheon of the conference.

"I told them, 'You were warned ahead of time.' It was a roast; it was held late at night (midnight)," he said, according to the Review column. "Penn & Teller are my dear friends and I would take a bullet for them, and you can write that."

Amazing Johnathan told the Review he was aware that a number of what he called "gospel magicians" walked out of the performance.

"This was performance art," said Johnathan. "I know that Penn is a practicing atheist, and I agree with him that Christianity can be dangerous. Look at the Trade Center. That was done in the name of religion."

Clarke said in his column that Penn & Teller declined comment.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: amazingjohnathan; amazingjonathan; antichristian; atheist; blasphemy; christianity; crucifixtion; jesuschrist; lanceburton; lasvegas; magic; magicians; moronicstatements; offensive; outrage; penn; pennandteller; performanceart; religioushatred; teller; wherestheoutrage
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To: Houmatt
I saw an "at home" interview with Penn when I had cable (on E! maybe). He made it clear that he was an atheist but seemed to be the type (from some of the literature I've seen him discuss) that he's of the type who take particular delight in mocking others' (specifically Christians') religions.

He is also against the death penalty but has a "used" electric chair (and I believe some jarred fetuses).

A vile man who's stage act can be "entertaining" at some times.

61 posted on 01/20/2003 5:13:37 PM PST by weegee
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To: Skooz
And we can leave Hitler out of this, since you are apparently so thick that you don't understand the man's own words. Hitler called Christianity a "social scandal"

Hitler was inspired to carry out his monstrous acts by the atheist madman Nietzsche who destested Christianity almost as much as jlogajan does.

62 posted on 01/20/2003 5:17:31 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
What kind of practicing do you do as an atheist?

Spends his spare time "debunking" and mocking other religions; specifically Christianity.

63 posted on 01/20/2003 5:17:56 PM PST by weegee
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To: ErnBatavia
Praised with some cavets maybe. Not everyone agreed with his politics.
64 posted on 01/20/2003 5:21:31 PM PST by weegee
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To: Houmatt
Snake Oil and Holy Water Richard Dawkins, 10.04.99 Penn suggests you read article by author and scientist Richard Dawkins about the relationship between religion and science, and why it's important not to confuse the two.

http://www.forbes.com/asap/1999/1004/235.html

They have always been controversial..is their "act"..seems here they played more to an audience of one..themselves.

65 posted on 01/20/2003 5:25:58 PM PST by fight_truth_decay (this space for rent)
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To: rabidone
Someone in another thread pointed out that on "Fear Factor" Penn & Teller's chosen charity was the ACLU.

Penn is also against the death penalty.

Ted Rall supported Bill Clinton's impeachment over lying to the court about Monica. Doesn't make Ted Rall a conservative either.

66 posted on 01/20/2003 5:26:16 PM PST by weegee
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To: Tulsa Brian
left protesting the new Mel Gibson flick ..brilliant deduction my dear Watson!
67 posted on 01/20/2003 5:30:06 PM PST by fight_truth_decay (this space for rent)
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To: yendu bwam
They're very close to their tigers...

That's Seigfreid and Roy.

68 posted on 01/20/2003 5:34:32 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: Houmatt
It is blasphemy! What a disgrace!

Dear Lord please bring them to conversion!

69 posted on 01/20/2003 5:38:47 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Houmatt
Disgusting stuff coming from two otherwise talented and witty guys. I hope this a brief detour into stupidity.

BTW, can we stop with the who killed more people stuff? Genocide isn't golf, the team with the lowest score doesn't win.
70 posted on 01/20/2003 5:46:00 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: Houmatt
Interesting way to show the world how loving Christians are, even to atheists: to go on the Internet, compare all atheists to Stalin and Hitler, declare that Teller should be beaten to death, and call for a worldwide boycott over an act that nobody on here actually saw, and for which you have only one source, World Net Daily.

For the record, I've had dinner with Penn Jillette. Yes, he's a very staunch atheist and quite in your face about it. He also hates Bill Clinton and is, if anything political, a rabid Libertarian. I'm hardly in agreement with everything he says or thinks, but anyone who's done so much to expose scum-sucking charlatans like faith healers, psychic surgeons and John Edward is doing the Lord's work, whether he likes to think so or not.

71 posted on 01/20/2003 5:50:33 PM PST by HHFi
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To: Houmatt
I have never found Penn and Teller worth watching. And it has nothing to do with religion or their lack of beliefs. I saw them doing a skit about poking each other in the eyes. Real entertaining, eh? Even if I was a fan of magic I would not spend a dime to go see them.
72 posted on 01/20/2003 5:51:31 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: nickcarraway
Christianity can be dangerous. Look at the Trade Center

That's offensively stupid, yet thats a standard message over in left America. It a quick excuse to dismiss a meaningful conversation about Christianity.

73 posted on 01/20/2003 5:58:52 PM PST by oyez (Is this a great country...........Or what?)
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To: Houmatt
Hey, Penn and Teller:

It's not too late. You don't HAVE to BURN IN HELL, unless you particularly WANT to.

74 posted on 01/20/2003 6:03:06 PM PST by OKSooner (Jesus loves you anyway, but I frankly don't care...)
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To: HHFi
anyone who's done so much to expose scum-sucking charlatans like faith healers, psychic surgeons and John Edward is doing the Lord's work, whether he likes to think so or not.

I prefer James Randi's style in doing this. Penn and Teller, who can be sporadically amusing, muddle their message by getting people to focus on their shocking behavior. It's the same problem I have with the TV show 'South Park'. It's not worth watching when I have to keep concentrating on ignoring (or trying to justify) the potty humor. 'The Simpsons' makes a lot of the same points, but are eminently more watchable. In my opinion, anyway.

75 posted on 01/20/2003 6:04:57 PM PST by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: Houmatt
So what?

Lots of people ridiculed the crucifiction a couple thousand years ago, too. These guys have lots of company.
76 posted on 01/20/2003 6:09:36 PM PST by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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To: OKSooner
Ode to Penn and Teller

When you're old and decrepit/ and syphilitic wrecks/ may your heads fall through your a--holes/ and break your f---in' necks.
77 posted on 01/20/2003 6:11:39 PM PST by mathurine
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To: Tulsa Brian
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,75617,00.html Is Gibson Targeted for his beliefs?
78 posted on 01/20/2003 6:15:14 PM PST by fight_truth_decay (this space for rent)
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To: oyez
That's offensively stupid, yet thats a standard message over in left America. It a quick excuse to dismiss a meaningful conversation about Christianity.

It's absolutely amazing (and very, very sad) that so many liberals - who most often have not the slightest idea what Christ actually taught or what He said, or of the significance of what He did - mock Him. They don't want to know - because they know that to know would mean to give up lives of sin and to turn toward God. They are afraid and insecure. We are called to pray for them.

79 posted on 01/20/2003 6:41:23 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
Looks like "debunking" is all part of PAT's new program:

Penn & Teller shine light on conniving opportunists

80 posted on 01/20/2003 6:42:11 PM PST by weegee
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