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White House Brief Stops Short of Bush Speech (Folks, I really don't relish the next words)RUSH
rushlimbaughshow ^ | 1/17/2003 | RushLimbaugh

Posted on 01/17/2003 4:09:44 PM PST by TLBSHOW

White House Brief Stops Short of Bush Speech

January 17, 2003

Folks, I really don't relish the next words, sentences, and paragraphs, which you will read on this page or hear from my mouth in the audio links below. There is some angst today in the conservative legal community over the University of Michigan case and the brief filed by the Bush administration late Thursday night near the midnight deadline, and how this brief differs in scope from the president's amazing speech.

Now, the mainstream press, of course, is late to pick up on this. We have several wire reports, which I read on Friday's program that lead with lines like, "President Bush is siding with white students in the most sweeping affirmative action case…" And they don't think they're biased? President Bush is siding with white students? No, President Bush is siding with the Constitution. It's the Fourteenth Amendment, which is being largely ignored by those in the mainstream press. He's siding with the Constitution, not siding with white students or white people or white anybody.

That being said, our legal advisors here at the EIB Network and the Limbaugh Institute have read the brief filed by the Bush administration. We've studied it, and this position is not nearly as sweeping as that taken in the president's speech. In short, he does support overturning the policy of Michigan, but stops there and goes no further. The administration's brief contends that the admissions policy at Michigan does violate the Constitution, but the brief does not say that the use of race violates the Constitution. And that's the key.

Race-based anything violates the Constitution. No such discrimination is allowed, but the brief doesn't attack that, it only attacks the specific admissions policy at the University of Michigan. The Constitution does not outlaw all forms of discrimination, but it does prohibit discrimination based on race, and in some cases it discriminates or prohibits discrimination based on gender and religion.

The brief does not challenge racial preferences in college admissions. It accepts, in fact, the fact that race-based diversity is a constitutionally proper goal. So in the brief, as opposed to the speech the president made, the administration is not opposed to the goal, but merely Michigan's practice by which it was achieved.

Here is the upshot: The president's compelling speech certainly suggested he was taking on the whole issue of race-based preferences. This is why everybody was so excited. This is why you want a conservative in the White House, to stop a mess like affirmative action. It pits groups of people against each other and it stigmatizes people who benefit from it. There's nothing positive about it. The president's opponents predictably in their criticism certainly suggested that he was taking on the issue of race-based preferences.

After hearing the president speak, and from that reaction from the left, the press, pundits and all the rest of us concluded that Bush was challenging racial preferences in college admissions. But his administration's brief - I'm sorry to say, folks - doesn't do that.

Listen to Rush...

(…compare media reports of the president's position, with the actual brief) (…continue the legal analysis of the brief filed by the White House)

Read the Articles...

(AP: Bush Brief on Affirmative Action Due) (USA Today: White House to oppose Michigan policy of race-based admissions) (Reuters: Bush Lawyers Urge Top Court to Back White Students)

Read the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
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To: woofie
TLB is just roasing the administration's feet...


Yes and he got a little something roasted along the way it seems.....


141 posted on 01/17/2003 8:14:28 PM PST by deport (A sheckle or two keeps the lights on)
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To: nicollo
I guarantee Creed will NOT put you to sleep. Go listen to their song 'Bullets' or 'Freedom Fighter'.

Freedom Fighter

The mouths of envious Always find another door
While at the gates of paradise they
beat us down some more
But our mission’s set in stone
‘Cause the writing’s on the wall
I’ll scream it from the mountain tops
pride comes before a fall

So many thoughts to share
All this energy to give
Unlike those who hide the truth
I tell it like it is
If the truth will set you free
I feel sorry for your soul
Can’t you hear the ringing ‘cause
for you the bell tolls

I’m just a freedom fighter
No remorse
Raging on in holy war
Soon there’ll come a day
When you’re face to face with me
Face to face with me

Can’t you hear us coming?
People marching all around
Can’t you see we’re coming?
Close your eyes it’s over now
Can’t you hear us coming?
The fight has only just begun
Can’t you see we’re coming?

I’m just a freedom fighter
No remorse
Raging on in holy war
Soon there’ll come a day
When you’re face to face with me
Face to face with me

142 posted on 01/17/2003 8:17:45 PM PST by rintense (Go Get 'Em, Dubya!)
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To: holdonnow
I’ll defer to your inference that the 14th was talking about race. When I think of the Constitution I guess I might be considered a strict constructionist. That is, if that term means that the Authors of the Constitution meant what they said and said what they meant.

Of course the Amendments from number 11 on were not done by the Authors, so I suppose those authors may not have said what they meant. I.e., I was assuming that when the 14th speaks about citizens, I though they meant citizens. But if it is now common knowledge that citizens meant black citizens, I guess I’m just late to get into the know.

143 posted on 01/17/2003 8:18:37 PM PST by Positive
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To: Senator Pardek

144 posted on 01/17/2003 8:20:53 PM PST by rintense (Go Get 'Em, Dubya!)
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To: rintense
WORD!
145 posted on 01/17/2003 8:29:03 PM PST by Senator Pardek (I luv crackpots)
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To: Senator Pardek; rintense
Are you in a parallel universe?
146 posted on 01/17/2003 8:37:08 PM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Howlin; rintense
Are you in a parallel universe?

Assuming the other universe is "parallel" - how would one know the difference?

147 posted on 01/17/2003 8:41:44 PM PST by Senator Pardek (I luv crackpots)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Could Bakke be overturned,based on the lawsuits of the two students alone ? If no one specifically asks that Bakke be overturned,is there any chance that the SCOTUS might go that route,anyway?
148 posted on 01/17/2003 8:45:59 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue ( I think Rush needs a vacation)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
What, I respectfully ask, is your question to me?
149 posted on 01/17/2003 8:54:38 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Senator Pardek

150 posted on 01/17/2003 8:55:04 PM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Howlin
C'mon - my joke was funny - ever hear of Jerry Seinfeld?
151 posted on 01/17/2003 8:57:30 PM PST by Senator Pardek (I luv crackpots)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Lincoln's principles are alive and they are well.

Huh?

152 posted on 01/17/2003 8:58:20 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Senator Pardek
When you, of all people, get something like that for me, you know I'm admitting defeat.
153 posted on 01/17/2003 9:00:21 PM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
President Bush IS leading...and he's doing so in a time that is vastly different from Lincoln's.

Mr. Lincoln wouldn't even recognize the place, and they would arrest him if he showed up.......

154 posted on 01/17/2003 9:03:44 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
and they would arrest him if he showed up.......

Why would you have him arrested? Is he a Mexican, too?

155 posted on 01/17/2003 9:07:48 PM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Howlin
Hee Haw, says the cliquebot...........
156 posted on 01/17/2003 9:11:02 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Howlin; Joe Hadenuf
Well lookie here, I guess that 2 day Hacienda wasn't enough for Jose
157 posted on 01/17/2003 9:14:10 PM PST by MJY1288 (SCOTUS decides, Not GWB)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Hee Haw, says the cliquebot...........

Oh, geez, how original. Nobody has EVER said anything close to that before. You've REALLY hurt me to the bone.

And what kind of "bot" are you?

Oh, I remember: you're a HATE-BOT.

You seem to despise everything.

158 posted on 01/17/2003 9:14:44 PM PST by Howlin (It's yet ANOTHER good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Ben Ficklin; Miss Marple; Howlin; hchutch
"The administration's brief contends that the admissions policy at Michigan does violate the Constitution, but the brief does not say that the use of race violates the Constitution."

Slap me and call me "Sally".

The case being tried is about the admissions policy at Michigan, but if Bush and Olsen do not waste their breath, and the Court's time, being redundant, they have caved?

The challenge to the admissions policy is based on the fact tyhat the University uses racial quotas. How is it that arguing that the University using racial quotas in their admissions policies is unconstitutional, NOT translate into arguing that the use of racial quotas violates the Constitution?

I'm no lawyer, but even I know that when you are trying a man for murder, you don't make global statements about the state of society, and why people murder. You discuss the facts relevant to the case before the Courts.

Not only that, but if the admission practices of Michigan are found to be unconstitutional, it establishes precedents for each individual State to challenge Federally mandated racial quotas in their State University system.

Imagine that, Bush coming out in favor of States having the ability to challenge the Federal government on State issues.

What the hell does this Bush guy think we are supposed to be?

A Republic?

159 posted on 01/17/2003 9:15:22 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Howlin
Lets see, I type, "Mr. Lincoln wouldn't even recognize the place, and they would arrest him if he showed up......." and you respond Why would you have him arrested? Is he a Mexican, too?

LOL! Bait that nasty cliquish, racial trap........Yeahhhhhhhhhhh.

160 posted on 01/17/2003 9:16:00 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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