Sen. Lieberman Opens Up Huge 14 Point Lead in New FOX News 2004 Presidential Poll

Hotline/National Journal 'Last Call' Column ^ | January 17, 2003 | Press Release

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In a new National FOX News Poll of Registered Democrats :

Conn. US Senator Joe Lieberman leads with White House 2004 Field with 29% of the vote.

Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri has 15%

Mass. US Senator John Kerry has 13%

North Carolina US Senator John Edwards has 8%

The Reverend Al Sharpton has 5%

And ex-Northeastern Governor Dean has 2%

[PJ-Comix]

The difference between Liberman and Kerry and Edwards is that Lieberman sounds constipated, Kerry looks constipated, and Edwards has become a constipated joke (with all his talk about "regular people.")

[KQQL]

These polls mean NADA>.....It all comes down to state by state

[thepitts]

Lieberman/clinton?... just shoot me.

[muleboy]

FYI... two Yale law students took time off from their studies to work on Lieberman's State Senator campaign in 1970. Yep, you guessed it, Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham.

If I know HRC, Lieberman could well be a stalking horse that soaks up money and attention from the other 'dwarfs' until such time as HRC is ready to be 'drafted'.

[f.Christian]

The jewish jimmy carter (( wimp // moron )) . . . more like dukakis (( loser )) ! ! !

[Nick Danger]

This is all preliminary. Just wait until Carol Moseley Braun announces. She'll mop the floor with these clowns. Heh.

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Hate to say it but I think we may wind up with a Lieberman/ McCain ticket.

There is no way that blowhard McCain would ever put himself in a second-fiddle position to whiney milquetoast Lieberman.

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That is just amazing to me, and it will go higher.

[Mulder]

At this early stage, polls are nothing more than name recognition exercises.

I believe that hitlery will enter the race, and she has a good chance to be elected in 2004, depsite what the polls say now.

[ewing]

Exactly, DU hates Lieberman with a passion.

[anymouse]

What Dubya will do to Lie-berman in 2004. :)

[ewing]

Is it possible that the Drudge Kerry story about him 'hating Iowa' has already contributed to his dip in the polls?

[woodyinscc]

More proof the Democrat Party is delusional!

[Stefan Stackhouse]

Vice Presidential candidates on losing tickets who then ran for President and won:

Franklin D. Roosevelt

(Yep, he's the ONLY one)

Vice Presidential candidates on losing tickets who then ran for President and lost:

Bob Dole
Walter Mondale
Rufus King (going waayyy back)

Vice Presidential candidates on losing tickets who then tried to run for President, but never even made it to the nomination:

Jack Kemp
Dan Quayle
Edmund Muskie

(These are just the more recent ones. There were others, shrouded in the midst of time, and mostly long forgotten.)

A failed Vice Presidential bid is an almost certain way to assure that one will never become President. FDR is the only one to have ever succeeded, and it is important to note that there was an exceptionally long hiatus of twelve years between his Vice Presidential and Presidential candidacy, and the nation was in unprecedented turmoil in 1932.

Now, by way of contrast:

Sitting Presidents who successfully stood for relection:

Bill Clinton (BARF!)
Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon
LBJ
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Harry Truman
FDR
Calvin Coolidge
Woodrow Wilson
TR
Wm McKinley
US Grant
Abe Lincoln
Andrew Jackson
James Monroe
James Madison
Thomas Jefferson
George Washington

And then,sitting Presidents who UNsuccessfully stood for relection:

George HW Bush
Jimmy Carter
Gerald Ford
Herbert Hoover
William Taft
Benjamin Harrison
Grover Cleveland
Martin Van Buren
John Q. Adams
John Adams

Sitting Presidents retain their office about 2/3 of the time, on average.

Prognosis:

Lieberman has heavy odds against his even getting the nomination, and his odds of winning the national election are not good. In contrast, Bush is shaping up as the 2:1 odds on favorite for a 2nd term.

[ImphClinton]

Liberman McCain 2004

McCain knows there is no way he will ever become president as a Republican. He is Libermans best friend. I imagine that Liberman will have to agree to make him a strong VP but being a strong VP is the closest McCain can ever come to being President. He is too old to hope to become President after two terms and besides Hilterbeast would get in the way of that.

I would expect the announcement to come in early 2004 so a year could change things but only health problems will keep McCain from jumping to run with Liberman. Although if the Dems managed to get another seat he might announce sooner.

[Tymesup]

If the Democratic candidate is getting trounced, perhaps Mrs. Clinton will be drafted as a substitute, ala Lautenberg for Torricelli in New Jersey.

If the focus groups poll differently, the candidate may need to have an accident. I'm assuming Mrs. Clinton still has the phone number of various plumbers who specialize in these matters.

[Captain Beyond]

I can see it now.

Hi I'm Bob Dole. And your can rest assured Bob Dole is gonna kick his butt. Where's my Viagra?

[ewing]

Kennedy is the exception to the VP rule losing in 1956 and Hillary will compare herself to him. (unless you consider that 1960 election fixed, which it may well have been)

[finnman69]

DUmmies aint gonna like this one bit.

[ewing]

Why Lieberman?