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Do Baptists Make Bad Presidents?
Christian Conservative | 4,11,200 | Peter Johnson

Posted on 01/17/2003 9:57:07 AM PST by meandog

Do Baptists Make Bad Presidents?

The Christian Conservative Magazine
By Peter Johnson

Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter and Warren G. Harding were all Baptists. And, according to presidential historians, each man and his administration had serious flaws.

Clinton, of course, had the Monica Lewinsky and Pardon scandals plus was subjected to a myriad of criticism over his handling of foreign affairs. Carter struggled through the Iranian hostage crisis, the OPEC oil embargo, and a spiraling inflation that sparked one of the nation’s greatest recessions. And Warren G. Harding was the lightening rod for the Teapot Dome scandal.

Yet, each of the men professed a profound religious footing in their collective Baptist upbringings. Both Carter and Harding were Baptist deacons and Sunday school teachers. Prior to politics, Harding even was among the journalists to run a Sunday section in his Marion, Ohio newspaper. Clinton was often photographed on the steps of Washington area churches on Sunday and often invited noted Baptist ministers such as the Rev. Billy Graham and Jesse Jackson to the White House for prayer breakfasts.

So, did each man’s religion play a part in historians’ criticism?

“It depends on how you look at it,” says the Rev. Johnny Lee McElroy a noted religion and presidential historian. “I do think that some of the tenets of the Baptist faith played a part in their decisions…but you can’t blame all their shortcomings on religion.”

Baptists, unlike other mainline Protestant faiths, are noted for their non-liturgical services. Most Sundays are devoted to prayer, hymns and sermons. There is little structure to a set program. And that was the same way that Clinton, Carter and Harding ran the White House.

According to official Baptist doctrine: "Baptists cherish and defend religious liberty, and deny the right of any secular or religious authority to impose a confession of faith upon a church or body of churches.

We honor the principles of soul competency and the priesthood of believers, affirming together both our liberty in Christ and our accountability to each other under the Word of God.

Baptist churches, associations, and general bodies have adopted confessions of faith as a witness to the world, and as instruments of doctrinal accountability. We are not embarrassed to state before the world that these are doctrines we hold precious and as essential to the Baptist tradition of faith and practice.

As a committee, we have been charged to address the "certain needs" of our own generation. In an age increasingly hostile to Christian truth, our challenge is to express the truth as revealed in Scripture, and to bear witness to Jesus Christ, who is "the Way, the Truth, and the Life."

The 1963 committee rightly sought to identify and affirm "certain definite doctrines that Baptists believe, cherish, and with which they have been and are now closely identified." Our living faith is established upon eternal truths. "Thus this generation of Baptists is in historic succession of intent and purpose as it endeavors to state for its time and theological climate those articles of the Christian faith which are most surely held among us."

Other mainline Protestant churches follow a creed….


TOPICS: Philosophy
KEYWORDS: badpresidents; baptists
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Presidential religion
1. Washington--Episcopalian
2. J. Adams--Unitarian
3. Jefferson--Agnostic
4. Madison--Episcopalian
5. Monroe--Episcopalian
6. J.Q. Adams--Unitarian
7. Jackson--Presbyterian
8. Van Buren--Reformed Dutch
9. W.H. Harrison--Episcopalian
10.Tyler--Episcopalian
11.Polk--Episcopalian
12.Taylor--Episcopalian
13.Fillmore--Unitarian
14.Pierce--Episcopalian
15.Buchanan--Presbyterian
16.Lincoln--Liberal protestant
17.A. Johnson--Presbyterian
18.Grant--Methodist
19.Hayes--Methodist
20.Garfield--Disciples of Christ
21.Arthur--Episcopalian
22.Cleveland--Presbyterian
23.B. Harrison--Presbyterian
25.McKinley--Methodist
26.T. Roosevelt--Episcopalian
27.Taft--Unitarian
28.Wilson--Presbyterian
29.Harding--Baptist
30Coolidge--Congregationalist
31.Hoover--Quaker
32.F.D. Roosevelt--Episcopalian
33.Truman--Reformed protestant
34.Eisenhower--Presbyterian
35.Kennedy--Catholic
36.L.B. Johnson--Disciples of Christ
37.Nixon--Quaker
38.Ford--Episcopalian
39.Carter--Baptist
40.Reagan--Disciples of Christ
41.G.H.W. Bush--Episcopalian
42.Clinton--Baptist
43.G.W.Bush--Methodist
1 posted on 01/17/2003 9:57:07 AM PST by meandog
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2 posted on 01/17/2003 9:59:05 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: meandog
Do Baptists Make Bad Presidents?

No, those presidents just make bad Baptists.

3 posted on 01/17/2003 10:04:42 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: meandog
Jefferson--Agnostic

More like Deist.

4 posted on 01/17/2003 10:08:08 AM PST by Sir Gawain (_|_)
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To: meandog
I wish you had posted a link, as there appears to be further discussion.

Having some Baptist roots, I can say that this article is stretching to make an argument that can't be made on the basis of his analysis. Baptists have as much of a set service as liturgical denominations, they just do it differently.

No argument here that Harding, Carter, and Clinton were low in the ranks, especially Clinton. I don't think you could accuse Carter of running a laid-back administration. He was accused of micro-managing, a very different style than Clinton.

One more thing. Licoln has never been identified as a Liberal Protestant, whatever that means. He is usually described as "unaffiliated."

All in all, I don't think the root cause of their failures can be blamed on their denomination. They were failures, but in different ways; there was no common aspect in which they made poor presidents.

5 posted on 01/17/2003 10:10:48 AM PST by happygrl
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To: tnlibertarian
Do Baptists Make Bad Presidents?

Yes, "Dumb Baptist" and "unsaved Baptist" do make bad presidents

6 posted on 01/17/2003 10:11:36 AM PST by WKB
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To: meandog
Thomas Jefferson was not Agnostic. He was unaffiliated.
7 posted on 01/17/2003 10:12:36 AM PST by CyberSpartacus
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To: CyberSpartacus
He was unaffiliated.

So was Ulysses Evertte McGill

8 posted on 01/17/2003 10:15:27 AM PST by WKB
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To: WKB
Heehee
9 posted on 01/17/2003 10:19:43 AM PST by Treebeard (Looks like hard times done flushed the chumps...)
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To: meandog
Why does Harding get such a bad rap? After all, he was a true Jeffersonian and the only president of the twentieth century who succeeded in significantly reducing the size and scope of government.
10 posted on 01/17/2003 10:19:43 AM PST by Taft in '52
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To: 4ConservativeJustices; billbears
Lincoln was a mystic...
11 posted on 01/17/2003 10:19:59 AM PST by Ff--150
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To: tnlibertarian
you said it and Klinton was a BINO
12 posted on 01/17/2003 10:20:35 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: happygrl
Wonder why so many of the GREAT presidents were Episcopalian?
13 posted on 01/17/2003 10:28:07 AM PST by meandog
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To: Sir Gawain
More like Deist

What is a deist?

14 posted on 01/17/2003 10:30:18 AM PST by meandog
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To: happygrl
One more thing. Licoln has never been identified as a Liberal Protestant, whatever that means. He is usually described as "unaffiliated."

His step-mother, whom he credited with most of his upbringing, was Presbyterian I believe...

15 posted on 01/17/2003 10:31:52 AM PST by meandog
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To: Texas_Jarhead
you said it and Klinton was a BINO

How many times have you seen him at church with his giant Bible since Monica and Impeachnment?

16 posted on 01/17/2003 10:33:30 AM PST by WKB
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To: meandog
"Do Baptists Make Bad Presidents?"

No, Southern democrats make bad Presidents

17 posted on 01/17/2003 10:35:09 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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To: WKB
Your post# 6)........................BTTT
:-)

Do Baptists Make Bad Presidents?

YES,..........................................'They',....vote them 'in'.

18 posted on 01/17/2003 10:40:42 AM PST by maestro
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To: dixiechick2000
"No, Southern democrats make bad Presidents"

I was raised as a S.B. and I couldn't agree more. I left the church in my teens because of the schizophrenic doctrine.

19 posted on 01/17/2003 10:43:30 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: meandog
Bump for later - and I had no idea GW was a Methodist
20 posted on 01/17/2003 10:59:09 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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