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Philly Trip Not Worth the Risk, Bucs Fans Say
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 1/15/03 | Wes Allison

Posted on 01/15/2003 7:14:05 AM PST by dawn53

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To: Physicist
...so by your logic, aren't fans are equally to be condemned for cheering really hard hits?

No, that would be one of your many leaps of logic.

How do the fans cheering a hard hit know for certain whether the player was injured by it?

They don't, and they don't have to.

Should the fans not hold their applause until the player gets up and assures them he's OK?

No, they needn't hold their applause

But then again, the league encourages the fans to enjoy the really big hits, so go figure.

Nothing to "go figure" really, it is an accepted part of the game.

I guess that's the same thing as wanting them injured,...

No it's not.

... which as you say is the same thing as wanting their careers to be over.

I said no such thing. (You do argue well with yourself, though.)

None of the above justifies cheering an obviously injured player, as Michael Irvin clearly was. That was, and remains, my only point.

You feel the need, for some reason, to make a distinction between cheering an injury to a player ("shameful") and cheering a career-ending injury to a player (something you seem certain that Eagle fans wouldn't really do if they only knew that the injury was indeed career-ending). If this distinction is important to you, by all means, run with it.

101 posted on 01/15/2003 2:15:08 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
I said no such thing.

Then you had no reason to disagree with me in the first place.

None of the above justifies cheering an obviously injured player, as Michael Irvin clearly was. That was, and remains, my only point.

Only point, exactly. But then, I said that before you did.

102 posted on 01/15/2003 2:27:44 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
Then you had no reason to disagree with me in the first place.

Actually I disagree with you more now, since you insist on equating apples with oranges.

Only point, exactly. But then, I said that before you did.

Yes, you did say it first. Kudos to you.
It was what you said afterward that I took mild exception to... and still do.

103 posted on 01/15/2003 2:52:10 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: dawn53
Philadlphia fans have had a horrible reputation for as long as I can remember. As a very young child, I witnessed their carnage at the last baseball game played in Connie Mac stadium, where they lived up to their reputation and much, much more. Even afterwards, I thought the rest of the country had a weird and undeserved prejudice against us; until I grew up and realized the behavior at that last game was not an anomoly.
104 posted on 01/15/2003 3:31:13 PM PST by TAdams8591
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To: dawn53
it's called home field advantage. well, that and we actually know the game, unlike most fans. GO EAGLES!
105 posted on 01/15/2003 3:32:24 PM PST by Libertarian4Bush (yer mom!)
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To: TAdams8591
Now there's a screen name we haven't seen in quite a while! Welcome home!

My experience in seeing the Flyers live has been quite safe and pleasant. I haven't seen the Eagles live, but for every horror story I've heard, I've had someone tell me that it's not as bad as the media claims. I don't doubt that it's worse than most other stadiums, though.

106 posted on 01/15/2003 3:48:09 PM PST by Physicist (How do you like the new features? :-))
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To: Physicist
Flyer's games are most surprisingly, remarkably pleasant! You are absolutely correct!
107 posted on 01/15/2003 4:00:58 PM PST by TAdams8591
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To: Physicist
"I'm not sure what planet you're from..."

Earth, the planet where the Bucs can't win the big game. ;^)"

Okay, bro. We'll see. Come Monday, one of us will be eatin' a whole bunch of crow, and it won't be me (God, I hope not!).

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

108 posted on 01/15/2003 6:04:48 PM PST by wku man
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To: jeremiah
Does McNAbb do coke, frequent Prostitutes, and bad mouth the other team at every chance? No. Did Irvin? Yes. You may not like it, but there is some reason for anger. Besides Philly fans were used to chearing for Aikman getting knocked out of the game from Philly's defense so often, that it was just a habit.
109 posted on 01/15/2003 8:02:18 PM PST by SengirV
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To: Physicist
"Earth, the planet where the Bucs can't win the big game. ;^)"

Well? How 'bout them Bucs now, doc? ;^)

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

110 posted on 01/19/2003 4:38:59 PM PST by wku man (BUCS!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Libertarian4Bush
"it's called home field advantage. well, that and we actually know the game, unlike most fans. GO EAGLES!"

Ruh Roh!!!

111 posted on 01/20/2003 8:32:20 AM PST by Sam's Army
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To: wku man
Well? How 'bout them Bucs now, doc?

Congratulations to them. I hope they win it all. They played adequately, which was more than enough to beat the Iggles yesterday. Last year, the Eagles left it all on the field and had nothing to be ashamed of. This year, they thought they could mail it in, and not show up.

112 posted on 01/20/2003 12:37:56 PM PST by Physicist
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