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Right Balance [Joyce Foundation Gun Control]
Joyce Foundation Work In Progress newsletter ^ | 1/2003 | gungrog@joycefdn.org

Posted on 01/13/2003 1:14:14 AM PST by SteveH

From the Joyce Foundation newsletter, Work In Progress

Issue date: January 2003

Right Balance

"Gun rights groups have made it seem that the Second Amendment belongs to them. But it belongs to all Americans — we all need to understand what it means."

Getting a clearheaded understanding of the Second Amendment is a tall order these days. But scholars at The Ohio State University — with Joyce funding and the backing of an all-American hero — are taking up the challenge. The John Glenn Institute at OSU is creating a research center to help courts, scholars, journalists, and the public understand a little known area of our constitutional past that has huge implications for future public health and security.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed": for two centuries that language was interpreted by the courts as "pretty much a nonentity, with little if any effect on public policy," says Glenn Institute director Deborah Merritt. Judges consistently held that the amendment protected state militias, to balance the powers of the new central government created by the Constitution. Laws regulating individual ownership and use of firearms were routinely upheld.

But understanding of the past is always shaped by the politics of the present. In the last thirty years, new research has been reinterpreting the Second Amendment as asserting an individual right to bear arms, similar to the rights of speech and religion protected by the first amendment. Some of the new studies are by legal scholars and historians, but much of it rests on scholarship by gun rights advocates with a clear political agenda. Relatively few studies have explored the alternative, "collective rights" approach; it was so widely accepted that scholars had little interest in examining it.

Although scholars are divided over how to interpret the Second Amendment, the new gun rights scholarship is having an impact. In a dramatic shift of federal policy and jurisprudence, a Federal Appeals Court in Texas and U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft both recently cited the research in supporting an individual right to own firearms. On the other hand, a recent decision by the 9th Circuit Court embraced the dominant collective rights view. The conflict between these two courts makes it likely that the Supreme Court will take up the question in the next few years.

The individual rights position, if upheld, could have a profound impact on public policy, says Merritt, a former Supreme Court clerk. "It would depend on how the courts interpret the guarantee. At the extreme, it could eliminate all gun regulation. More likely, it would restrict what legislatures can do." Meanwhile, criminal cases all over the country are potentially affected. "Think of all the defendants who have weapons charges against them," says Merritt. "Any one of them could raise a Second Amendment issue now."

Helping the courts, lawyers, and journalists make sense of all this is a job for scholars. That's where the Glenn Institute comes in. Through conferences, a website, and educational outreach, its new Second Amendment Research Center will make available the best scholarship underlying both the individual and collective rights interpretations, says center director Saul Cornell, whose specialty is early constitutional history. It will also assemble historical resources, such as state and local firearms laws from the period when the amendment was drafted. "Boston in 1786, for example, had a law on its books making it illegal to have a loaded firearm inside the home," notes Cornell. "Clearly lawmakers in Massachusetts thought that an urban area could require safe storage — a law that, today, some argue, would violate the Second Amendment."

One extremely important question is whether firearms would be treated like speech, which triggers strict scrutiny by the courts, a judicial standard that might imperil many of the nation's gun laws. The center plans a conference in 2004 at which scholars on both sides would examine what standard of scrutiny follows from their interpretation.

With so much at stake, Merritt and Cornell understand that they're venturing into contentious territory. But they're cheerfully confident — and determined — about playing the role of honest broker for both sides. Otherwise there's no point in the exercise, says Merritt: "Judges are decision makers. You can't gain their confidence by being an advocate — they know all about advocates, they have them in their courtrooms all the time. They won't pay attention to a zealous website."

And there's a broader public purpose to be served, adds Cornell. "Gun rights groups have made it seem that the Second Amendment belongs to them. But it belongs to all Americans. We all need to understand what it means, what it precludes and does not preclude in terms of gun regulation." As Senator Glenn himself put it, the Center will "use scholarship to promote public understanding of an essential policy issue."

Deborah Merritt, Saul Cornell Glenn Institute, 614.292.4545 www.glenninstitute.org

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: bellesiles; constitution; guncontrol; gunrights; jackrakove; johnglenn; secondamendment
[mega BARF ALERT]

Joyce Foundation sponsored the closed, selective, invitation-only 2000 Chicago-Kent Law Review Symposium on the Second Amendment which featured several articles referencing Bellesiles' now-discredited _Arming America_. In turn, those articles were prominently cited in the 5th Circuit Court's US v. Emerson (2001) and (from the gun control activists' point of view, more successfully) in the 9th Circuit's collective-rights affirming interpretation in Silveira v. Lockyer (2002).

See also

http://www.joycefdn.org/programs/gunviolence/gunviolencemain-fs.html

for a higher level perspective of the Joyce Foundation's gun control activities.

Gun control articles can be found here

http://www.joycefdn.org/programs/gunviolence/gunviolencearticles-fs.html

Also see the following, from

http://www.joycefdn.org/articles/gunarticles/0105whoseright.html

From the Joyce Foundation newsletter, Work In Progress

Issue date: May 2001

Whose Right

A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed. — U.S. Constitution THE CHICAGO-KENT COLLEGE of Law hosted a symposium last fall in which leading scholars (including Pulitzer Prize winner Jack Rakove and Bancroft Prize winner Michael Bellesiles) examined the history and meaning of those words. The papers have just been published in a special issue of the Chicago-Kent Law Review.

Included are examination of the intentions of the Founding Fathers, a history of legal interpretations of the Second Amendment, and accounts of the historical and philosophical context in which the Amendment was drafted.

The courts and legal scholars have consistently interpreted the Amendment through the lens of its first clause — i.e., as guaranteeing the right of Americans to bear arms as part of a militia. It wasn't until the 1960s that a handful of scholars and gun advocates began claiming that the Amendment also guarantees an individual right to own firearms.

In this volume, several scholars examine that contention in the light of the contemporary debates during the drafting of the Constitution, including the Founders' concern to protect the rights of states to organize militias. Meanwhile, Bellesiles reports that the states freely passed laws controlling guns, both before and after the Second Amendment was adopted, with little controversy.

Two other Joyce grantees, meanwhile, have collaborated on a report documenting the environmental hazards of lead in shooting ranges. Poisonous Pastime, released in May by the Violence Policy Center and Environmental Working Group, reports that outdoor firing ranges put more lead into the environment than most other major industrial sectors, yet they remain largely unregulated.

Chicago-Kent College of Law, 312.906.5190

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www.ewg.org

1 posted on 01/13/2003 1:14:14 AM PST by SteveH
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2 posted on 01/13/2003 1:18:10 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the DC Chapter at the Patriots Rally III on 1/18/03)
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To: SteveH
From:

http://lawreview.kentlaw.edu/submissions_webpage.htm

The Chicago Kent Law Review publishes solely in symposium format. Therefore, we regret that we do not accept unsolicited manuscripts. Both text and notes of solicited manuscripts should be double-spaced. We regret that manuscripts cannot be returned. Manuscripts should be submitted to:

Chicago Kent Law Review
565 West Adams
Chicago, IL 60661
Tel: (312) 906-5000

3 posted on 01/13/2003 1:21:35 AM PST by SteveH (we don't mention that only collective rights proponents were invited to the 2000 symposium)
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To: SteveH
From

THE HISTORY AND POLITICS OF SECOND AMENDMENT SCHOLARSHIP: A PRIMER

Carl T. Bogus

Chicago-Kent Law Review

Symposium on the Second Amendment

vol. 76, 2000: 3

http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/BogusChicago.htm


This Symposium not only brings together the most impressive collection of scholars ever to address the Second Amendment but represents something of an historical event as well. A short description of the history and politics of Second Amendment scholarship is necessary to explain why that is so.

[...]

Until recently, there was little reason for scholars agreeing with the collective right model to address the topic. But the time had come to bring the collective right perspective up to date. With generous support from the Joyce Foundation, the Chicago-Kent Law Review sponsored this Symposium to take a fresh look at the Second Amendment and, particularly, the collective right theory. This is not, therefore, a balanced symposium. No effort was made to include the individual right point of view. Full and robust public debate is not always best served by having all viewpoints represented in every symposium.[106] Sometimes one point of view requires greater illumination.

[...]

We were fortunate in recruiting a distinguished group of scholars -- indeed, one of the most accomplished groups to address this or any topic in a symposium. They do not disappoint; they have produced a collection of highly original work, and made significant contributions to our understanding of the Second Amendment. Everyone who believes that this topic deserves to be taken seriously will be grateful.
4 posted on 01/13/2003 1:46:03 AM PST by SteveH
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To: dansangel
PING
5 posted on 01/13/2003 1:52:44 AM PST by .45MAN (Less Law more Justice)
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To: SteveH
"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

Seems clear enough to me and anyone else who wants to read it without putting their own interpretation into words. But that is when the lawyers come in ...

6 posted on 01/13/2003 2:15:40 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
"A well-regulated Concert Orchestra being necessary to the Pride of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Trombones shall not be infringed."

7 posted on 01/13/2003 2:33:18 AM PST by Rudder
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To: SteveH
Good site I ran across
8 posted on 01/13/2003 2:43:31 AM PST by toenail
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To: SteveH
Woops

http://www.joycefdn.org/articles/gunarticles/0301rightbalance.html

gunprog@joycefdn.org
9 posted on 01/13/2003 2:45:56 AM PST by SteveH
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To: bang_list
Joyce Foundation (source of gun control organization funding) bang
10 posted on 01/13/2003 2:47:23 AM PST by SteveH
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To: SteveH
I'm sick of seeing John Glenn lionized when the old socialist crook should be wearing an orange jumpsuit.
11 posted on 01/13/2003 4:20:09 AM PST by metesky
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To: toenail
Excellent link, toenail.

You might like this little story too:

Publisher Stops History Book Publication

I rather like the fact that Bellisiles is still wandering the landscape in total denial of his crimes against history and the Republic.

12 posted on 01/13/2003 4:52:44 AM PST by metesky
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To: Rudder
This doesn't mean that individuals have the right to just go out and buy themselves a trombone. The key word here is orchestra. What's next...if trombones are unregulated, what's to keep people from buying a tuba...or a piano, for God's sake? Nobody needs a 6-foot, 1000-pound instrument in their homes. Surely the founding fathers never meant for this kind of unrestrained music to happen! Then again, they could scarcely have envisioned the current scenario from the cheap banjos of their day. /silliness
13 posted on 01/13/2003 5:08:11 AM PST by Sender
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To: SteveH
What part of "...the right of the people..." is so confusing?


MARK A SITY
http://www.logic101.net/
14 posted on 01/13/2003 5:11:25 AM PST by logic101.net
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To: Sender
they could scarcely have envisioned the current scenario from the cheap banjos of their day.

I was doing alright until I got to the last words. Now I'm mopping up the coffee on my desk.

But seriously, isn't it amazing how clear the meaning for the phrase "the People..." becomes when trombones are substituted for the loaded word, "Arms?" This demonstrates that those who ignore People in favor of Militia are reading their agenda into the Amendment. (Of course, we all knew that.)

15 posted on 01/13/2003 8:41:17 AM PST by Rudder
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