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To: Spiff
You are under the common misconception that you "paid in to" Social Security.

Nope, I made that same observation 40 years ago.

Sorry, but your money was and is immediately spent by the looters and leeches.

So what? You think I had a choice? It was forced from me, as for you.

Saying that you will get out of it what you put in to it is like saying that you're going to go hold up a liquor store to make up for money a burglar stole from your house.

Bull. The gov stole from me and promised a pay back, if I lived.

The money is being stolen from working Americans. If you retire while I'm still working, your revenge will be taking money out of my pocket.

As mine was taken out of my pocket to pay for my grandfather & his peers, - who never paid in a dime. But then, your grandparents don't collect SS I assume. Correct?
Big deal in any case, as you seem to think you're the only one who's been fleeced.

I will call you a leech and a looter and will be correct in doing so.

Get a grip. - You wouldn't do it in a bar, to my face, so you shouldn't do it here. You're being irrational.

50 posted on 01/12/2003 7:55:18 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine; Spiff
....errr.. both of you should calm down.

Spiff, like me, is young, and plenty pissed that we have to pay for the Federal Winnebago Retirement Program.

But tpaine has a point in that it isn't his fault, and they took the 7% without his consent.

A moral solution is for the government to allow those under 40 to surrender their SS contributions, and to drop the SS tax on us RIGHT NOW.

68 posted on 01/12/2003 8:15:01 PM PST by DAnconia55 (We could always throw politicians and medical waste into Boston Harbor.....)
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To: tpaine
But you are a leech and a looter--by your own standards.

You've just found a way to rationalize your blood-sucking of the American taxpayer.

108 posted on 01/12/2003 9:11:14 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry; Spiff; tpaine; Sparta; DAnconia55
Gotta go with Kevin Curry on this one your being hypocritical. No one is justified in collecting social security EVER. Let me explain why. You say your justified in robbing my generation because the fedgov robbed yours. Don't work that way. If Party G( Fedgov) robs Party A( your generation) to pay party B( the old foggies of your day) that doesn't justify you accepting money the fedgov steals from party C( my generation) you'd only be justified if the fedgov was stealing it from party B.
121 posted on 01/12/2003 10:01:24 PM PST by weikel (Mercy to the Guilty is Cruelty to the Innocent)
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To: tpaine
Folks...here's the bottom line...SOCIAL SECURITY IS A GIANT PONZY SCHEME...I HAVE SO LITTLE FAITH THAT I WILL EVER SEE A DIME OF MY FICA WITHHOLDING, THAT I WOULD ACTUALLY PAY TO GET OUT OF THE SYSTEM!
130 posted on 01/12/2003 10:45:53 PM PST by PatriotBill
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