Socialism: Its evil permeates American society

Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 1/12/03 | David P. Shreiner

[Jean S]

A conservative preacher once told me he thought "a little socialism was good." I was dumbfounded. He did not realize this was tantamount to saying a little evil is good.

In the early 1900s socialism was regarded as a crazy idea invented by revolutionaries and Marxists to disrupt civilization and bring down governments. But today the majority of Americans behave as socialists

[notdownwidems]

What do you think of the oft-heard attempts by spokescreatures for the legal industry to deflect the blame for this (the destruction of the American medical profession) onto the insurance companies? Does it hold any water? Please comment.

[tpaine]

"Now the conservatives sound more socialistic than FDR. They argue over the degree of socialism, not the principle involved." - Meenie-


Well said.
You can even see some of FR's 'conservatives' defending gun control, because they blindly support socialistic drug controls, here:



Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]
Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/820965/posts

[LiteKeeper]

read later

[dramagirl1341]

I would also be very opposed to that

[brityank]

Lawyers in and out of Congress have caused the disintegration of the medical profession while presiding over its progressive socialization.

Is it any wonder that lawyers are stealing the wealth of the nation, since they make the laws (50+% of federal and state legislators are lawyers); and they adjudicate the laws (Judges are selected and approved and sponsored by the lawyers).

[Ken H]

You can even see some of FR's 'conservatives' defending gun control, because they blindly support socialistic drug controls.

Ah yes, the Commerce Clause conservatives, who believe in a living, breathing Constitution.

[american spirit]

One glimmer of hope is that more and more people are wakening up to the fact that we are not governed by constitutional law. Instead we're under statutory laws which are created by the lawyer/politician cabal that has tied us up with literally millions of codes, regulations, statues, etc. Our problem is that we (the public) do not realize that we've contracted our rights away to various gov't entities.

[wimpycat]

Evidently our grandparents decided Socialism (security) was preferable to Freedom (risk of failure );wonder if this is not the result of having women vote ?

I have observed women are more likely to stick in a bad situation rather than risk going it alone, although "tough" new abuse laws and programs make the man just the payor.Perhaps what we have now is the result of generations of women voting for the kind of gov't which punishes men in general and reduces the risks in dealing with the natural consequences of non-marital sex and preferring "bad boys" over solid "dull" men (who build, plan, and believe in a just God).

Could you please expound your theory that the women's vote is the major contributing factor to the downfall of the country?

[supercat]

When live-ins would be charged and hauled to jail for adultery.

Really? When was adultery ever defined to include anything other than a married person having relations with someone other than a legitimate spouse? [nb: the Old Testament is even more restrictive in its definition of adultery: a married woman having relations with a man not her husband; the definition is probably sex-specific because, among other things, a man's betrayal of his wife does not introduce any uncertainty about which children are biologically hers.]

[Spiff]

Wow! Great article. I can't believe it was published.

I get in real trouble when I explain to a leech...er...senior citizen that Social Security and Medicare is simply the government robbing and looting my paycheck and others' paychecks and redistributing it to them. Tough luck. The money belongs to me and my family. Seven percent of my income (actually much more if you factor in what my employer is paying as matching "contributions" - what he has budgeted to pay me but has to give over to government robbers) goes directly to these leeches. For me, if you factor in employer matching, that comes to over $10,000 per year that is freakin' stolen from my family and given to some old fart somewhere who failed to budget and plan his finances accordingly.

Take a look at your FICA "contributions" - then double them. That is what is being outright stolen from you and your family. And then go find the part of the Constitution that allows this theft. Don't bother, it is not there.

Man, I'm pissed. Where are the crates of tea to dump, dammit? Where's my warpaint? I'm sick to death of this crap!

Want to get pissed too? Check out this Social Security calculator from The Heritage Foundation and you will see how much you would be able to retire with and leave to your heirs if you didn't have your money stolen from you and flushed down the freakin' retarded Social Security ponzi scam.

For me, I would have around $1million by simply investing the same amount into interest bearing accounts, stocks, and bonds. Then, I would be able to live comfortably until I die and would leave around $800k to my heirs. Imagine the magnitude of the theft that the Federal Government is perpetrating against every working American!

[pickyourpoison]

I'd like to know why Hollywood is so full of so-called stars , that believe in this.
We need a camera in front of the socialist offices to see who's going to be making our next movies.
They must be coming from there. Too high a percentage for
any where else.
I do know their biting the hands that feed them. {and very well I might add} Capitalism has made many of them very wealthy.

[Brellium]

Actually social security is not that hard of item to rationalize.

In many societies (including ours at one time) you saved up enough money to live off on durring old age, though that did not stop you from working. Also the younger generation of a family would in many cases support the older generation. The problem is that changed in the 1920's and 1930's (1930's for the US in particular). The Great War left Europe with out much of it's work force and was forced to provide for those who could no longer provide for themselves or had their childern to provide for them. While it's an over simplification of what happened there it's pretty much what did happen.

On the other side of the atlantic the US went through a major ecconomic boom, which in fact ended up being a bubble due in part to European resurgence. That European resurgence led to lower exports and a slowing of the economy here. When the bubble here finally bursted it destroyed the banking system which was due in no small part to the large amount of speculation. That and the following massive unemployment left vast numbers of families unable to fend for themselves let alone their parents.

The 1930's were filled with accounts of riots, strikes and shanty towns (the mall in DC was called Hoovervill, which was filled with vets from WWI seeking war benifits early to ofset their unemployment).

Now flash forward, and today we are at a point where we have a saving rate of about 0.004% and a "retirement" system that if it doesn't implode in 15 years will face the bleak prosepect of each "retireree" being suported by two workers by 2030.

That and our way of life is changing, it's hard to say what it will be like in 20 years, but it will be different.

I guess that's a consequence of moving into an age of dreams.

[tpaine]

You can even see some of FR's 'conservatives' defending gun control, because they blindly support socialistic drug controls. -tpaine-

Ah yes, the Commerce Clause conservatives, who believe in a living, breathing Constitution.
27 -KH-

Except when the 'penumbras' gore the ox of ~their~ single issue.

[Coleus]

Plug in the word, Socialism, in these sites

http://www.thenewamerican.com/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/website/search.htm

http://www.lifesite.net/search/search.html

The truth about UNICEF

http://www.lifesite.net/waronfamily/unicef/index.html

[Coleus]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/532849/posts

[tpaine]

Hey Spiff! -- Dont call me a 'leech'. I was making the exact same argument as you, back in '62, when I became a self-employed contractor. I've paid in at max, ever since, - and now I expect to cash out. [if I live long enough]
To get even, I figure it'll take me another 15 years, barring inflation. - I doubt I'll make it to that age, so the ponzi scheme will work, in my instance.

In yours, you lo0se. - But have no fear, Big Brother will crank up the printing presses to bail society, and maybe you, out of this fine mess.

[antaresequity]

Social Security is a system whereby the government borrows money from the future generations. It in essence makes Social Security involuntary. That sounds like slavery. It sounds Un-Constitutional...

If todays young people were asked if they would like to opt-out ...they vast majority would choose against participation.

[Spiff]

Hey Spiff! -- Dont call me a 'leech'. I was making the exact same argument as you, back in '62, when I became a self-employed contractor. I've paid in at max, ever since, - and now I expect to cash out. [if I live long enough] To get even, I figure it'll take me another 15 years, barring inflation. - I doubt I'll make it to that age, so the ponzi scheme will work, in my instance.

You are under the common misconception that you "paid in to" Social Security. Sorry, but your money was and is immediately spent by the looters and leeches. Saying that you will get out of it what you put in to it is like saying that you're going to go hold up a liquor store to make up for money a burglar stole from your house. The money is being stolen from working Americans.

If you retire while I'm still working, your revenge will be taking money out of my pocket. I will call you a leech and a looter and will be correct in doing so.

[HiTech RedNeck]

What is socialism and why is it evil? My dictionary says "socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization based on collective or governmental ownership and democratic management of the essential means for production and distribution of goods."

The churches of New Testament times conducted themselves in such a manner. With this big caveat: membership was voluntary.