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Edmond Sun ^ | 9 January 2003 | Lisa Shearer

Posted on 01/09/2003 7:51:29 PM PST by stainlessbanner

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1 posted on 01/09/2003 7:51:29 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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2 posted on 01/09/2003 7:52:10 PM PST by stainlessbanner (Deo Vindice)
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3 posted on 01/09/2003 7:52:23 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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4 posted on 01/09/2003 8:35:33 PM PST by Consort
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re: Cox said Wednesday. “I don’t know why we are honoring a treasonous group that tried to overthrow the United States government."

A bald-face lie. The Confederate States never sought to, or attempted to, overthrow the United States government. They sought independence from that government. Even the term "Civil War" is a lie, as the CSA were in rebellion and soufght independence, as the 13 colonies had done not 100 years before.

5 posted on 01/09/2003 8:45:32 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Jimer
Check this out

Declaration by the People of the Cherokee Nation

"But in the Northern States the Cherokee people saw with alarm a violated Constitution, all civil liberty put in peril, and all the rules of civilized warfare and the dictates of common humanity and decency unhesitatingly disregarded. In States which still adhered to the Union a military despotism has displaced the civil power and the laws became silent amid arms. Free speech and almost free thought became a crime. "

6 posted on 01/09/2003 8:48:56 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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Cherokee Nation Flag Cherokee Peace Flag

7 posted on 01/09/2003 8:51:25 PM PST by Consort
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Constitution of the Cherokee Nation.
8 posted on 01/09/2003 8:57:12 PM PST by Consort
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“It doesn’t give me any type of relief,” Cox said Wednesday. “I don’t know why we are honoring a treasonous group that tried to overthrow the United States government.”

What an ass! The Confederates never wanted to overthrow the US Government. They only wanted their own government.

9 posted on 01/10/2003 4:09:58 AM PST by aomagrat
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Free speech and almost free thought became a crime.

Incredibly this was written in 1861. Striking just how applicable this is today.

10 posted on 01/10/2003 4:56:28 AM PST by TomServo
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The Confederate States never sought to, or attempted to, overthrow the United States government. They sought independence from that government.

True enough, but there's no telling what the reaction of the Confederate government would have been had the Army of Virginia been successful at overrunning Washington and capturing Lincoln. Having bowed to the temptation to institute conscription it's difficult to consider the possibility that had the Confederacy been given the opportunity to not only remove the possibility of a future threat to their northern border but to return the former states of the Union to a governmental system within the bounds delineated by the constitution, they might well have done so.

Alternately, the possibility that at least some of those conquered territories might have been traded to England in return for the diplomatic recognition and military support sought by the Richmond government, particularly along the Canadian border, is at least within the realm of possibility, and would have left the Yankees less able to later stage a future retaliatory war against their Southron neighbors.

But of course their act was, as you note, not treasonous but rebellious. It was Lincoln whose actions were acts of treason to the constitution and gave those seeking the dissolution of the Union the moral justification for their actions.

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11 posted on 01/10/2003 7:28:02 AM PST by archy
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12 posted on 01/10/2003 7:36:54 AM PST by archy
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......"Even the term "Civil War" is a lie"

.....that's quite true.....in a civil war you have two [or more] factions each trying to sieze control of the government....the "late unpleasantness" of 1861-65 was a war of secession & partition; a concept as American as apple pie......

13 posted on 01/10/2003 7:57:36 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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Bump for the 5 Tribes - among them were some of my ancestors.
14 posted on 01/10/2003 9:31:50 AM PST by 4CJ
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Cox is NOT smart enough to be a dogcatcher, much less a member of the legislature of OK!

as a PROUD desendent of a Cherokee warrior who rode with GEN Stand Watie's First Mounted Cherokee Rifles, i'm OFFENDED at his presence in the statehouse & his HATEFILLED LIES about our tribe's HERO-MARTYR, period, end of story.

unless you happen to be Cherokee, you should PROMPTLY close your trap, Mr. Cox and slink away into the darkness, from whence you came!

FRee dixie,sw

15 posted on 01/10/2003 10:00:09 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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WELL SAID!

FRee dixie,sw

16 posted on 01/10/2003 10:00:57 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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also, WELL SAID!
17 posted on 01/10/2003 10:01:49 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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THANKS for posting our GREAT SEAL!
18 posted on 01/10/2003 10:02:57 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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YEP!
19 posted on 01/10/2003 10:03:20 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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20 posted on 01/10/2003 10:03:41 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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