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Ominous Scenario from Neal Boortz's Nealz Nuze
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| 01/09/2003
| Neal Boortz
Posted on 01/09/2003 9:17:06 AM PST by xrp
JUST SO YOU DONT SLEEP WELL TONIGHT
Attendees at a recent high-level policy seminar on the East Coast last weekend heard a presentation from an acknowledged expert on terrorism and the Middle East. Yeah
Im being vague here. My source didnt want me to name names.
This expert said that President Busy couldnt have been more right when he named Iraq, Iran and North Korea as the Axis of Evil in the world today. He then set forth the following scenario:
Osama Bin Laden is, indeed, quite alive and is presently in Iran. American authorities are aware that he is alive, and know where he is.
Even prior to 9/11 there was continuous communication between Osama Bin Laden, Kim Jong-il and Saddam Hussein as they hatched a plan to bring the west, and particularly America, to its knees. US authorities are also aware of these communications.
When the United States actually launches its war on Iraq, North Korea will immediately invade South Korea knowing that the United States is not able to maintain two major battle theatres at the same time. Again, U.S. Authorities are fully aware of this operational plan.
Fact? Hey, I dont know. Lets just call it a scenario. It is certainly easy to see how this could be true. You have to admit, its a dammed good game plan. America is pledged to protect South Korea from the North. We have 37,000 soldiers over there right now. If Bush has to quickly withdraw those soldiers in order to save their lives, and leave South Korea to suffer its fate, American prestige would be desperately damaged worldwide. Cant you just see the celebrations among the We hate America crowd as the United States tucks its tail in Korea and runs? What an incredible victory this would be for Osama Bin Laden and Kim Jong-il.
This could be a very interesting year.
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: boortz; iraq; northkorea; osama; saddam
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Mr Boortz had also been mentioning on his show that the only way that an Iraq-committed US Military would be able to deal with a North Korean invasion of South Korea would be to use nuclear weapons.
I personally disagree with that as really the only advantage the North Koreans have going for them is manpower. Their artillery, armor and aircraft are woefully out of date from what I understand.
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:17:06 AM PST
by
xrp
To: xrp
Everyone seems to discount the South Korean Army, which is large and well trained. This ain't 1950.
To: xrp
i dont even think they have the man power its less than a million.........probably south korea has just as many.
To: xrp
"Osama Bin Laden, Kim Jong-il and Saddam Hussein ...hatched a plan to bring the west, and particularly America, to its knees. "
You forgot to add Gray Davis. He is bringing California to its knees a lot faster than these guys.
To: JackelopeBreeder
And what about Japan? It isn't about to let South Korea fall.
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:24:20 AM PST
by
xm177e2
To: xrp
Their equipment may be out of date, but do we have enough anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles to take them out before they can overrun our lines? The Sherman tank was no match for the German Panzers and Tigers so we built them faster thean the Nazis could destroy them.
The main reason for keeping our bases in Guam, Okinawa, and Yaksuka are their proximity to Japan. We could have reinforcements there literally in hours. At least air support could be there quickly.
To: JackelopeBreeder
I agree, North Korea will expel its load and that's it. China will have to step in to save it from the South Koreans. It'll be a bloody friggin mess though.
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:25:04 AM PST
by
montomike
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To: xm177e2
If the men in the modern Japanese army are as fierce as their WWII grandfathers, they will be excellent allies.
To: xrp
Even prior to 9/11 there was continuous communication between Osama Bin Laden, Kim Jong-il and Saddam Hussein as they hatched a plan to bring the west, and particularly America, to its knees You've got to be kidding me. Lots of silliness here, but that one takes the cake.
As for the U.S. not being able to respond to a N. Korean offensive, it's all about speed. All of the invasion scenarios I've seen show that N. Korea believes it needs to take a large portion of S. Korea within 2 weeks of the initial invasion. If they do not, they're toast. Even if they do, there is no reason to believe they STILL won't be toast.
If Osama was in Iran, he'd be a marked man. The last thing the mullahs want right now is to have that target painted on them. They'd be like that Far Side cartoon with the one bear in the gunsight pointing at the other: here he is!
Similarly, Hussein (pre 9/11) wanted desperately to be left alone. How else to gain the position N. Korea now has as a nuke club member?
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:26:19 AM PST
by
Mr. Bird
To: JackelopeBreeder
Shhh..
Let the DPRK think they will survive the onslaught.
That will fix the "hate america" crowd's wagon.
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:26:47 AM PST
by
Ispy4u
To: xrp
How about sending Officer Eric Hall and his buddies from Cookeville TN to South Korea. They know how to tell the bad guys apart. They'll show them who's boss.
To: xrp
Yep. We go into Iraq, North Korea goes against the South AND China moves on Taiwan.
I still think we should take down Saddam.
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:32:18 AM PST
by
pgkdan
To: xrp
I personally disagree with that as really the only advantage the North Koreans have going for them is manpower.I agree. The 38th parallel is the most heavily mined real estate on the Earth. Missile sites form a line on the 38th. from the Yellow Sea to the Sea of Japan. These sites have both air defense and surface to surface capability. We have satellite warning of movement in PRNK, they know squat.
If that is not enough, we have the submarines that we don't talk about (and shouldn't).
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:33:44 AM PST
by
elbucko
To: hedgetrimmer
You forgot to add Gray Davis. He is bringing California to its knees...ROFLMAO! Funny! (I'll cry later)
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:37:15 AM PST
by
elbucko
To: xrp
Out of date they may be, but they are massed near the border and could unleash Hell on Seoul -- it is within range of their artillery and rocket launchers dug in just north of the DMZ and they could put some 10-15,000 rounds an hour onto the city before any response could be effective, per an American officer at the DMZ I heard on the radio today. Coming without substantial warning, that would kill or would upwards of 10,000 right off the bat.
Given their numbers and human wave tactics, the ROK forces would probably not be able to protect Seoul, which would be psychologically devastating. The only way to stop the PRK forces cold would be tactical nukes, which are not in country. If they are in Japan (on the carriers) they could be used within a few hours given the command decision. If they are not, and must be brought from the US, it would be at least 12-18 hours before they could be on target. That's probably too long for Seoul.
To: xrp
What is there to nuke in North Korea aside from Pyongyang - which would mostly just kill civilians to no great military consequence? That's the biggest problem the U.S. faces in dealing with a North Korean invasion of the South - there's nothing much to nuke & the N. Korean regime doesn't care how many of its people we kill, so long as they're not in uniform... The North Korean military infrastructure is spread all over the nation, and in the event of an invasion, it would be quite intermingled with the South Koreans, themselves. Is the U.S. gonna nuke Seoul to save it?? And, if it does, then how is that gonna do any more good than nuking Pyongyang?
Think about this: Who'd be hurting more - North Korea after Pyongyang gets nuked or the 'West' after Tokyo gets nuked....
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:39:10 AM PST
by
AntiGuv
(D'oh!!)
To: xrp
Boortz is right. We have nothing with which to ward off NK other than nuclear weapons. With the Fifth Column from within, South Korea will run rather than fight.
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:42:18 AM PST
by
cynicom
To: elbucko
And don't forget Bill Clinton. He brought Monica to her knees.
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posted on
01/09/2003 10:17:37 AM PST
by
drjimmy
To: xrp
It'll all be moot if, as Boortz has predicted in the past, Saddam flees Iraq, forcing a regime change without a shot being fired.
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posted on
01/09/2003 10:22:53 AM PST
by
PaulJ
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