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As family shrieks, police kill dog, Cooksville TN
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| 1/09/03
| FlyingA
Posted on 01/09/2003 7:29:12 AM PST by FlyingA
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To: matthew_the_brain
Tell Grandma how nice the doggies are....... Oh, I never claimed all dogs are nice. I have crossed paths with over 50,000 dogs and know there are bad dogs. But, just as with people, I don't cast such a broad net because of the actions of a few.
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:39:49 AM PST
by
Flyer
(Somewhere there is a tag line searching for me)
To: DAnconia55
This guy is typical of the post 2000 election crowd. What a waste of a good forum
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:40:45 AM PST
by
Nov3
To: FlyingA
Unfortunate circumstance.
But the long and short of it is don't let your dog out during a felony stop!!!!!!!!
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:43:42 AM PST
by
netman
To: Nov3
This guy is typical of the post 2000 election crowd. What a waste of a good forum Yep, it's going down hill in some respects. Though I like the tone of responses on the other threads. Not all bad.
To: matthew_the_brain
You are an idiot. Just look at the photo of the people, nut case. Do these people look like typical "gang bangers"?
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:48:47 AM PST
by
Cuttnhorse
(And yes, soccer was (is) for girls)
To: netman
But the long and short of it is don't let your dog out during a felony stop!!!!!!!!Did you read the article??????? The guy asked the cops to close the car doors so the dogs wouldn't jump out. Try reading before posting.
To: PatrioticAmerican
So, you can kill anyone's dog that you choose? Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. The worst you can get (to the best of my knowledge) is discharging a firearm in city limits, maybe willful distruction of private property. Personally, I'd like to change this. But then you run into other issues, which can get completely out of hand.
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posted on
01/09/2003 9:55:14 AM PST
by
Hodar
To: WashingtonCollegeofLaw
In a case such as this, the award to the family is likely to be an overall award covering the whole situation, and not earmarking a certain amount for the dog and the emotional distress related to the dog's death.
In virtually all cases of wrongful shootings/killings of pets, there are other issues to be litigated or settled in connection with the incident. The late Judge Ellen Morphonius was known to give extra-long prison sentences to perps who harmed or killed animals in the course of committing the main crime at issue. One way or another, the legal and/or arbitration system usually finds a way to make cold-blooded killers of family pets pay heavily.
I suspect that a civil suit against someone who deliberately took aim at and shot your dog as you walked it on the sidewalk in front of their property would yield a significant award, in any state.
To: Dick Bachert
Thanks for taking the time to write a good, thought-provoking post. Much appreciated.
To: Dick Bachert
Excellent post.
To: Hatteras
Yep, sounds like that strange 1%. Of course you didn't shoot the dog either.... did you?! <|:^)
To: Dick Bachert
What crap. These idiots were stupid. I have several family in LEO positions and concluded that this group was way off the deep end. There was not sufficient information provided to them to suspect this much of a threat and to draw weapons this quickly. Simply by asking for license and registration would have shown that there was no car jacking involved instead of assuming the out of state plates was occupied by Osama Binladen. There are good cops, but there is no margin for error for bad ones. Lately there have been many innocent people shot, abused, or roughed up by bad LEO that should be drummed out. All this extra Clinton war on crime money is allowing more idiots on the street with guns that do not belong there.
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posted on
01/09/2003 10:28:25 AM PST
by
Mat_Helm
To: matthew_the_brain
I'd like to see them work a "petting the dog keeps my blood pressure down" angle. Gotta be a way to make things right.
93
posted on
01/09/2003 11:00:12 AM PST
by
jiggyboy
To: TankerKC
Re: Video
It's pretty obvious that the cop was a coward and/or a bully. That dog was not acting threatening in the least.
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posted on
01/09/2003 11:04:25 AM PST
by
scan59
To: scan59
You have no idea what the tone of the original call to the cops was, nor do you know anything about the perps.......that dog came out of the car darting, probably barking.........i would have shot it dead, the cop did his job.
To: FlyingA
A sickening, sad story about another incompetent cop(s). The problem is the officer deserves punishment, not the insurnce carrier or the county taxpayers if they are self-insured.
The cop should have to personally pay pay the family $500 to buy a new dog and $10,000 for their grief so they can take a 2 week vacation in Hawaii and mourn their loss.
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posted on
01/09/2003 11:12:44 AM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: walkingdead
"Of course you didn't shoot the dog either.... did you?!"No, but then I didn't have a gun. But if the owner hadn't jumped in so quick and it was just between me and him I would have strangled the sonovabeach.
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posted on
01/09/2003 11:14:50 AM PST
by
Hatteras
To: matthew_the_brain
You have no idea what the tone of the original call to the cops was, nor do you know anything about the perps Nor do you.
that dog came out of the car darting, probably barking..
Yet you make these assumptions.
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posted on
01/09/2003 11:21:31 AM PST
by
Flyer
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To: Flyer
Yes I do make those assumptions, knowing that this guy knew he was being taped, as they know all of these things are being taped..........instead of always siding with Fido and his thuggish owners, put yourself in the shoes of that officer......he knew he was being video taped, and he did the right thing in killing that monster.
To: Hodar
.... On what charge? Shooting a dog is not illegal. This is a loophole that cowards/sadists can use.....
Tennessee Criminal Code:
39-14-205. Intentional killing of animal.
(a) (1) A person who intentionally or knowingly unlawfully kills the animal of another, with the intent to deprive the owner of the right to the animal's life and without the owner's effective consent commits theft of that animal and shall be punished under § 39-14-105.
(2) In determining the value of a police dog under § 39-14-105, the court shall consider the value of the police dog as both the cost and any specialized training for such police dog.
(b) A person is justified in killing the animal of another if such person acted under a reasonable belief that the animal was creating an imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury to such person or another or an imminent danger of death to an animal owned by such person. A person is not justified in killing the animal of another if at the time of the killing such person is trespassing upon the property of the owner of such animal. The justification for killing the animal of another authorized by this subsection shall not apply to a person who, while engaging in or attempting to escape from criminal conduct, kills a police dog that is acting in its official capacity. In such case the provisions of subsection (a) shall apply to such person.
[Acts 1989, ch. 591, § 1; 1996, ch. 927, §§ 1, 2.]
Question is did the officer "reasonably" thought the dog was creating an imminent danger of death or serious injury to himself or others...Second part is was the vehicle stop valid otherwise it may be construed as a trespass...Then who put the officers in "danger" by not closing the car doors?
Put me on the jury as to whether the officers acted as reasonable people.
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