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To: Teacher317
What has Hussein done that has directly threatened U.S. Citizens?

North Korea has a very real chance at nuclear weapons production and have now threatened war if sanctions aren't lifted.

As for the gassing of the Kurds, I have no idea whether it happened or not and unless you were actually there, I don't know how you can be so sure either. That notwithstanding, who provided Iraq with the gas to begin with. Are we reaping a bit of what we've sown here?

Sorry, I trust the U.S. Government about as much as Hussein (especially given that we have a President whose grandfather was nailed for trading with the enemy) and therefore anything I am told by said Government is met with the utmost suspicion. I still await the security camera video of other hijackers getting aboard their repsective aircraft on 9-11. Maybe GW is a great man who has the best of U.S. interests at heart, but I would submit there are plenty of reasons to be weary.

Let me ask you (and others on FR) this question, do you believe the ruling class of this country are more loyal to average joe U.S. citizen or to the ruling classes of other countries?

42 posted on 01/07/2003 10:51:14 AM PST by droberts
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To: droberts
Let me ask you (and others on FR) this question, do you believe the ruling class of this country are more loyal to average joe U.S. citizen or to the ruling classes of other countries?

You seem to imply that W is one of the "ruling class." To me, the "ruling class" of the United States consists of those elitist liberal intellectuals--and W is definitely not one of them.

He's one of us.

43 posted on 01/07/2003 11:01:31 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: droberts
As for the gassing of the Kurds, I have no idea whether it happened or not and unless you were actually there, I don't know how you can be so sure either.

You aren't there when Iraq pumps, transports, and sells their oil either... shall we question whether they really have any oil, as well? After all, we can't trust either government to tell us the truth.

That notwithstanding, who provided Iraq with the gas to begin with. Are we reaping a bit of what we've sown here?

We may have... but we can't be sure, since we weren't there, right? Even if we did sell that gas to Saddam, so what? Does that mean we have to sit back and allow every nation that we've provided weapons with to use them against us, and not retaliate?

Sorry, I trust the U.S. Government about as much as Hussein

Most FReepers trust government that much where our money is concerned... but when our lives are on the line, we tend to be a bit more trusting... and vicious when that trust is violated.

(especially given that we have a President whose grandfather was nailed for trading with the enemy)

Link? Source? Proof? Were you there?

and therefore anything I am told by said Government is met with the utmost suspicion. I still await the security camera video of other hijackers getting aboard their repsective aircraft on 9-11.

This is where you earned my unfettered contempt. With Osama bin Laden happily claiming credit on tape, where Muslims dance in the streets, where dozens of people used their cell phones to report what was going on as they were being flown into the buildings... in the face of all that, YOU claim (with no proof, of course... and remember, you weren't there, dumbass) that it is a government cover-up/conspiracy/plot to allow them to wage a justifiable war and claim those wondrous spoils in Afghanistan and the other pits of hell in the deserts of the Middle East. I won't even type what I hope becomes of your soul.

Maybe GW is a great man who has the best of U.S. interests at heart, but I would submit there are plenty of reasons to be weary.

The word is "wary". Yes, there are plenty of reasons to be WARY in the world, especially with world leaders like Saddam eagerly trying to develop more and more powerful weapons to use on those who want him out of power (Kuwaitis, Iranians, Israelis, Kurds, and Americans)... with world leaders like Kim Jong Il who threatens to use nuclear weapons if there are sanctions against him for violating nonproliferation treaties, violating trade agreements with Clinton, starving millions of his own people, and/or ... with millions of Muslims bombing, raping, beheading, burning, murdering, gang-raping, oppressing, evicting, and torturing those who do not share their faith, and over a billion condoning it by not standing against it (and a few hundred, safely in Western nations, decrying it).

Finally, with all those things to be WARY of, "people" like you question our military's motives (and even throw out silly and unverified acccusations against the family members of the President), try to distract our mission by pointing to other potential targets, dance on the graves of 3000 Americans who were murdered by trying to exonerate their killers, dance on the graves of hundreds of gassed Kurds by Saddam by saying that you're not sure they're dead and that it was someone else who might have sold Saddam the weapons, and you support that same evil man by playing semantics games...

By the way, Saddam HAS directly threatened Americans: remember those rallies with the "death to America" chants? Remember those Iraqi weapons scientists that escaped and told us of Saddam's desires? Remember those payments to suicide-bombers who killed hundreds of Israelis and several Americans in discos, pizzerias, hotels, and buses? Remember those shots fired at American planes that you excuse as understandable? Well, the Nazi soldiers firing at our boys could also be excused, since we were firing at them... that doesn't change the righteousness of the Americans' mission, or diminish the danger they were in.

49 posted on 01/08/2003 8:03:29 AM PST by Teacher317
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