You aren't there when Iraq pumps, transports, and sells their oil either... shall we question whether they really have any oil, as well? After all, we can't trust either government to tell us the truth.
That notwithstanding, who provided Iraq with the gas to begin with. Are we reaping a bit of what we've sown here?
We may have... but we can't be sure, since we weren't there, right? Even if we did sell that gas to Saddam, so what? Does that mean we have to sit back and allow every nation that we've provided weapons with to use them against us, and not retaliate?
Sorry, I trust the U.S. Government about as much as Hussein
Most FReepers trust government that much where our money is concerned... but when our lives are on the line, we tend to be a bit more trusting... and vicious when that trust is violated.
(especially given that we have a President whose grandfather was nailed for trading with the enemy)
Link? Source? Proof? Were you there?
and therefore anything I am told by said Government is met with the utmost suspicion. I still await the security camera video of other hijackers getting aboard their repsective aircraft on 9-11.
This is where you earned my unfettered contempt. With Osama bin Laden happily claiming credit on tape, where Muslims dance in the streets, where dozens of people used their cell phones to report what was going on as they were being flown into the buildings... in the face of all that, YOU claim (with no proof, of course... and remember, you weren't there, dumbass) that it is a government cover-up/conspiracy/plot to allow them to wage a justifiable war and claim those wondrous spoils in Afghanistan and the other pits of hell in the deserts of the Middle East. I won't even type what I hope becomes of your soul.
Maybe GW is a great man who has the best of U.S. interests at heart, but I would submit there are plenty of reasons to be weary.
The word is "wary". Yes, there are plenty of reasons to be WARY in the world, especially with world leaders like Saddam eagerly trying to develop more and more powerful weapons to use on those who want him out of power (Kuwaitis, Iranians, Israelis, Kurds, and Americans)... with world leaders like Kim Jong Il who threatens to use nuclear weapons if there are sanctions against him for violating nonproliferation treaties, violating trade agreements with Clinton, starving millions of his own people, and/or ... with millions of Muslims bombing, raping, beheading, burning, murdering, gang-raping, oppressing, evicting, and torturing those who do not share their faith, and over a billion condoning it by not standing against it (and a few hundred, safely in Western nations, decrying it).
Finally, with all those things to be WARY of, "people" like you question our military's motives (and even throw out silly and unverified acccusations against the family members of the President), try to distract our mission by pointing to other potential targets, dance on the graves of 3000 Americans who were murdered by trying to exonerate their killers, dance on the graves of hundreds of gassed Kurds by Saddam by saying that you're not sure they're dead and that it was someone else who might have sold Saddam the weapons, and you support that same evil man by playing semantics games...
By the way, Saddam HAS directly threatened Americans: remember those rallies with the "death to America" chants? Remember those Iraqi weapons scientists that escaped and told us of Saddam's desires? Remember those payments to suicide-bombers who killed hundreds of Israelis and several Americans in discos, pizzerias, hotels, and buses? Remember those shots fired at American planes that you excuse as understandable? Well, the Nazi soldiers firing at our boys could also be excused, since we were firing at them... that doesn't change the righteousness of the Americans' mission, or diminish the danger they were in.
OK, maybe they don't have oil (there is a little more evidence of Iraq's oil than their WMDtm), but why invade Iraq but only have dialog with North Korea who actually do have nuclear weapons. Obvious, because the U.S. Government does not want to wage war on someone who really does have WMDtms. That's why they're considered a deterrent.
We may have... but we can't be sure, since we weren't there, right? Even if we did sell that gas to Saddam, so what? Does that mean we have to sit back and allow every nation that we've provided weapons with to use them against us, and not retaliate?
Just when did Iraq use a weapon we supplied to them against us?
Most FReepers trust government that much where our money is concerned... but when our lives are on the line, we tend to be a bit more trusting... and vicious when that trust is violated
Sorry, why the distinction. The governments of this world have proved time and again they are willing to kill their own. Of couse ours would never do that (Operation Northwoods, Tuskagee, U.S. servicemen's exposure to radiation after nuclear tests, etc...).
Link? Source? Proof? Were you there
Go to google.com, click on 'advanced search', in the 'with all the words' field enter 'Prescott' and 'Bush' and in the 'with the exact phrase field', enter 'trading with the enemy'. Browse the results at your leisure.
This is where you earned my unfettered contempt. With Osama bin Laden happily claiming credit on tape, where Muslims dance in the streets, where dozens of people used their cell phones to report what was going on as they were being flown into the buildings... in the face of all that, YOU claim (with no proof, of course... and remember, you weren't there, dumbass) that it is a government cover-up/conspiracy/plot to allow them to wage a justifiable war and claim those wondrous spoils in Afghanistan and the other pits of hell in the deserts of the Middle East. I won't even type what I hope becomes of your soul.
That's OK you earned mine when you started believing all the B.S. propaganda being churned out by the current administration. On the video tape, it looked nothing like OBL and wasn't it convenient a) to find such a tape and b) to have a very badly distorted sound track. As for the audio tapes, well what a surprise, our (ever trustworthy) Government told us they were genuine, but a Swiss organization said otherwise. As for the cell phone calls from the planes, I don't think I ever disputed the fact that planes were hijacked and flown into buildings, but just who did it? Where are those airport security video tapes? As for those muslims dancing on the street, that does not prove a thing, the film could have been shot at any point in time. Also, why did Bush tell us to forget OBL in March of 2002? How conveniently the attention and passions of idiots like you can be converted from being directed at OBL to Saddam Hussein.
Yes, you know how to spell 'wary', don't pat yourself on the back too hard it might stimulate the logic areas of your brain that have so far remained dormant.
dance on the graves of 3000 Americans who were murdered by trying to exonerate their killers
When did I dance on anyone's grave or exonerate any killers? I just want to make sure we get the right killers. Hey, but who cares about that when we can have a war against an established enemy then we can kid ourselves into thinking that enemy was responsible for all Amerca's ills including 9-11. Perhaps you can point out to me how Hussein is linked to OBL?
By the way, Saddam HAS directly threatened Americans: remember those rallies with the "death to America" chants? Remember those Iraqi weapons scientists that escaped and told us of Saddam's desires?
Well if your going to bomb everyone who's said 'death to America' at some point, let's just blow a chunk out of half the Earth. Who said Saddam does not desire to take a crack at the U.S., so do a whole bunch of nations I suspect (eg. North Korea), why all the attention on Iraq?
Remember those payments to suicide-bombers who killed hundreds of Israelis and several Americans in discos, pizzerias, hotels, and buses
No danger of this being propaganda of course.
In the absence of any real proof as to any of what has so far been talked about (i.e. actually having a time machine and seeing for yourself), the only thing you can go by is ultimately who has gained out of all of this. Well certainly not the Taliban (wasn't it convenient that all the contenders for the Afghan Presidency dropped out and Hamid Karzai, the ex-Unocal man, won by default). Hussein certainly hasn't gained anything (but many do stand to gain his oil). I am still amazed at how easily the attention of the average American has been manipulated away from Bin Laden to Saddam Hussein.