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To: T Wayne
These firearms were not made to kill people.

Handguns not made for hunting, TW. They are designed for killing things at close range. The only thing you're likely to kill in "self defense," (which is why most people buy handguns in the first place), is a human.

The fact that you've used your handgun for self defense without firing a shot, merely demonstrates the fact that people know a handgun will kill them. And by pulling your gun, you promised to kill them if they didn't go away.

Outdoors, one can extend self defense to things like bears. But that's a secondary application.

54 posted on 01/06/2003 12:24:53 PM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
If as you suggest, the sole purpose of a handgun is to kill people, and by various estimates there are somewhere between 50 and 150 million handguns in the USA, why aren't more bodies showing up?
55 posted on 01/06/2003 1:22:54 PM PST by T Wayne
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To: r9etb
Handguns not made for hunting

Your bias and ignorance are showing again. I specifically cited a number of my handguns that are for nothing but hunting. They are entirely unsuitable for "self-defense" against a human adversary. You would be in a hell of a lot of trouble if you "defended" yourself with a .45-70 revolver or a .454 Casull or a .44 Magnum. Those firearms are designed to be "backup" when hunting dangerous game with a rifle OR as the primary firearm for taking moose, elk or deer. I NEVER have any of those firearms loaded on my premises. Ditto for the .22 cal pistols. Using something that small for self defense is asking for failure.

The firearms that are intended to "kill people" for self defense are the .357 Mag, .38SPL, .40S&W, .45ACP, 9mm or 44SPL. When loaded for self defense, I select a high velocity jacketed hollow point. Federal Hydra-Shok is the "law enforcement" favorite. If you must defend your choice of ammo in court, selecting the same stuff used by local law enforcement causes minimal objection. When used at the range for "plinking", they shoot FMJ, DEWC or FN profile bullets. These firearms are NEVER taken in the field as "backup" for hunting.

The .45-70 revolver is perfectly good for moose and deer at 200 yards with iron sights. No less than 10 other people in town have taken deer and moose with that firearm.

You are apparently not familiar with "cowboy action shooting" either. That is a firearms related activity that is as much wrapped up in authentic costumes as shooting activities. Nobody goes to such activities with the intent to kill a human at close range. The people at the Monday night bullseye tournaments would take offense at your attitude as well.

62 posted on 01/06/2003 2:53:15 PM PST by Myrddin
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