Abortion and Breast Cancer

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The National Cancer Institute has been bullied by Congressional conservatives into revising its best judgment on whether abortion increases the risk of breast cancer. Unless the institute can summon the courage to express its true views, it will be severely damaged.

Researchers have long debated whether abortion increases the risk of breast cancer, possibly by altering hormones and tissue development in the breast. A fact sheet distributed by the institute last March noted that studies conducted before the mid-1990's produced inconsistent results but that subsequent studies generally found no association between abortion and breast cancer. The American Cancer Society reached the same conclusion.

Those judgments were anathema to anti-abortion groups, which have been trying to scare women away from abortion by raising the specter of breast cancer. A group of 28 anti-abortion members of Congress complained to Tommy Thompson, secretary of health and human services, that the institute's formulation was "scientifically inaccurate and misleading." So in June, the institute removed the fact sheet from its Web site and later replaced it with a statement that some studies have found an increased risk of cancer while others have not. That statement, while technically accurate, is such an egregious distortion of the evidence that one can only hope it is an interim statement, as some staff members suggest, not a final surrender.

The institute plans to address the issue at a conference on pregnancy and breast cancer in February. If the experts at the meeting agree that there is no link between abortion and breast cancer, the institute will have no excuse to suppress the information. It will have to issue a new fact sheet or admit it can no longer provide objective guidance on matters that inflame social conservatives.

[babygene]

"He said, and I paraphrase..."

The reason you insist on paraphrasing him is because you want to re-write what he said. Why don't you just quote him... all you have to do in cut and paste.

What your saying, in essance, is "This guy said something really bad. Let me tell you what he meant".

We are all capable of decerning his meaning as well as you.

And it's making you the fool, not me.

[Johnny Shear]

What is your problem? You CAN'T be THIS stupid?

He said, and I quote

But, if it were true, and God willing it will be

In response to this thread...

Abortion and Breast Cancer

Now...Are you just stupid or what? What is your deal?

[Johnny Shear]

I think on the first point you would agree that it would be good if they found the cause of breast cancer (even if the cause were found to be abortion). That would enable women to avoid getting it. It would make it easy to eradicate breast cancer.

CaughBullCaugh$hitCaugh!

OK...I think I get it now...

You're one of these in your face freaks who justifies the actions of anyone within your movement based on your own narrow and warped religious views. Is that it? I'll bet it is...That would explain your pathetic attempt of dancing around this issue.

Either that, or you're just plain stupid. And as much as I would like to believe that is the case, I don't.

[Hildy]

Excuse me, but saying that it's it would be poetic justice is even worse than wishing ill on someone else. Figures you're all men saying this. And I never thought I would say something like this on Free Republic.

[babygene]

"You're one of these in your face freaks who justifies the actions of anyone within your movement based on your own narrow and warped religious views."

Johnny, Johnny, Johnny...

You have no Idea what my religious views are, or even what my views on abortion are. You are distorting what a fellow freeper said, and then flaming him (and now me) based on your own distortion. Does your medical plan pay for consoling?

You need to take another valium and turn in early

[babygene]

"Figures you're all men saying this."

Hildy, I thought I said that I specificly didn't agree with him saying that, and it was insensitive and mean sprited.

I did not judge you for your actions when you were 20. I merely commented that timmothy didn't say what you accused him of saying. (I don't know where the hell he is, he should be fighting his own battles)

Frankly, it's none of my business if you killed your baby. People do have a choice in life... It would also be none of my business if you killed your mother or father or brother or sister, if that's your choice. I wouldn't do it, and I wouldn't expect my wife or kids to do it, but you can do as you want. Allow me to feel sorry for the victim though, if you don't mind.

40 million babies have been aborted since the 70s. That's more than 1/3 of all of the children conceived in the last 30 years. I have a hard time thinking this Roe vs Wade thing was a good idea.

We here a lot of complaints today; "there's only going to be two working people for every retiree in the near future". Well, that's what you get when you kill off 1/3 of the new crop of children...

[Hildy]

Frankly, it's none of my business if you killed your baby. People do have a choice in life... It would also be none of my business if you killed your mother or father or brother or sister, if that's your choice. I wouldn't do it, and I wouldn't expect my wife or kids to do it, but you can do as you want. Allow me to feel sorry for the victim though, if you don't mind.

You're an idiot. And a self-righteous one to boot...the worst kind.

[babygene]

Why are you so vicious? I supported you 110%

[Hildy]

ESAD

[Hildy]

ESAD

[fatboy]

Yes, we do agree on at least one thing. I do not think that the orig. post was made with you (Ms. Hildy) in mind, but you chose to take it personally. If you had the procedure and didn't know the risks because the abortion industry fooled you, then you have my sympathy. If you continue to ignore the studies that show that there is risk, then you are no better than someone who smokes 3 packs a day and denies that it may be a health factor. Sorry if this sounds mean, the truth is usally "mean". The truth, my friend, is the truth, no matter how offensive it may be to you or me.

I thought if I put a human face to that inane assertion, then maybe he would reconsider wishing ill on someone else. Foolish me.

Tom

[babygene]

"ESAD"

I don't know what that means. I really have no ill feelings and hold no malace toward you at all.

[Long Cut]

"Figures you're all men saying this. And I never thought I would say something like this on Free Republic. "

The hipocrisy that comes out of some of the fanatics around here is truly disgusting. On this issue at least, they have well learned the lessons of vicious hyperbole that the Left has taught.

You tried to put a human face on this for them. I commend you for that, but it was a wasted effort. They ascribe NO humanity to anyone who disagrees with their absolutist view of this issue. Witness "Black Elk's comments, which he cannot seem to finish without the words, "slice", "dice", and "hamburgerize".

The meaning of Tim's post was clear to anyone who read it, and the evil contained therein was painfully obvious to all who are not bewitched by the fog of fanaticism. Those who defend him are those same who would defend those who shoot doctors in their homes. Some "Murder", you see, is acceptable to them.

[Long Cut]

"Frankly, it's none of my business if you killed your baby. "

This statement, made to someone whom youy do not even know, is nothing short of evil, and indicative of a black cloud of hate in you.

Must be nice, to feel so justified in such rotten thoughts. Most people feel guilty when they feel such things, and repent. That is, if they are not hipocrites.

[glegakis]

She didn't kill the baby, the doctor did.

Should doctors be shot while in the act of killing another innocent human being?

Of course. If abortion is murder (which obviously it is) then as an act of heroism it is morally justified to, at minimum, try to stop a "butcher" from slaughtering an unborn.

Why isn't that obvious to everyone.

Which law is supreme, "moral law" or secular law?

[APBaer]

"Which law is supreme, "moral law" or secular law?"

What a question, Don't you remember *anything* Mullah Omar taught you?

[APBaer]

"Which law is supreme, "moral law" or secular law?"

What a question, Don't you remember *anything* Mullah Omar taught you?

[babygene]

" This statement, made to someone whom youy do not even know, is nothing short of evil, and indicative of a black cloud of hate in you."

You jerk. What the heck are you talking about? This woman said she killed her baby on this forum. I said, it's not my business, it's your choice, but I hope it's OK if I feel bad for the baby.

40 million women have killed their kids in the last 30 years, and any one of them will say it's not my business and it's their choice. Our government and our supreme court says it's not my business, it's their choice.


How the heck does that repesent "hate"? What the heck do you want? Are you upset because I refered to an abortion as as "her killing her baby"? Or because I said it's none of my business. If it's the later, I didn't say I didn't care. I said it's none of my business... Which it clearly is not.

[babygene]

"She didn't kill the baby, the doctor did."

Your too kind. The doctor was just the hit man...

[glegakis]

I didn't say she couldn't be considered an accomplice. The question is whether she was a willing accomplice or ignorant of just what horrors she was inflicting on her unborn.

Therein lies the rub. If the Democrats, Liberals and Pro-Aborts can keep as many women and men in the dark about the true nature of abortion, and keep selfishness at a selfishly high level, then the killing can continue without abate.

Very few in the media have the courage to discuss it in depth and openly.

"Where have you gone Alan Keyes, the unborn turn their crying eyes to you, woo woo woo"