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To: riversarewet
If you start from the premise that the message was right, which we do,...

Informal fallacy: begging the question...

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"If you start from the premise that the message was right, which we do, then the problem was that it wasn't getting out to the people," said one official of the Democratic Party who spoke on condition that his name not be used.

Formal fallacy in logic. (If/then statement. Premise statement used in propositional logic - - invalid form. Truth table shows two true premises leading to a false conclusion. If p, then q. Not q, therefore p.)

46 posted on 01/05/2003 8:26:07 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Their "logic" reminds me of an old joke that was/is built into the Unix Operating System and is as follows:

In the beginning was the Demo Project. And the Project was without form. And darkness was upon the staff members thereof. So they spake unto their Division Head, saying, "It is a crock of sh*t, and it stinks."

And the Division Head spoke unto his Department Head, saying, "It is a crock of excrement and none may abide the odor thereof." Now, the Department Head spake unto his Directorate Head, saying, "It is a container of excrement, and is very strong, such that none may abide before it."

And it came to pass that the Directorate Head spake unto the Assistant Technical Director, saying, "It is a vessel of fertilizer and none may abide by its strength."

And the assistant Technical Director spake thus unto the Technical Director, saying, "It containeth that which aids growth and it is very strong."

And, Lo, the Technical Director spake then unto the Captain, saying, "The powerful new Project will help promote the growth of the Laboratories." And the Captain looked down upon the Project, and He saw that it was Good!
58 posted on 01/05/2003 9:10:39 AM PST by DeFault User
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