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A moral and ethical atheist is better than a pedophile priest. Some religions even tolerate ploygamy. And you say that atheists make up their own morals? Get real. The reported pedophile priests and today's story about nuns being sexually preyed upon by priests and by other nuns are just the tip of the iceberg. Your children may face far more danger from a person of the cloth than from an atheist. Has that ever crossed your mind or are you operating totally on blind faith?

Wow, Jimer, you truly are confused. A moral and ethical atheist means nothing - because I have no idea what that atheist's morals and ethics are. (And neither do you. You only know what your morals and ethics are, but not what other atheists' are.) Stalin thought he was doing great good by collectivizing millions of farmers - and that killing off millions who were opposed to that was not bad. His morality - which he made up in his mind, was far different from mine. - As for the homosexual rapes of molestations of a couple of thousand teenage boys by priests in my Church - clearly a great evil seeped into it. But those molestatory priests are not following (or believing in) their (my) religion. You are right in that my sons can no longer be considered safe in the sole company of a Catholic priest. That is a great and terrible sadness to me and an indictment of the people who lead my Church. Those who abused teenage boys (90% or so of the cases to date) did so despite Christ's warning that those who cause children to sin, or lead them to sin face the direst consequences imaginable. The problem is not with my religion, but with the people who abused their power in my Church. And my faith is hardly blind!

Wow, Jimer, you truly are confused.

Just because I may be confusing you doesn't necessarily mean that we're both confused.

A moral and ethical atheist means nothing - because I have no idea what that atheist's morals and ethics are.

Then why are you judging it?

(And neither do you. You only know what your morals and ethics are, but not what other atheists' are.)

That's an inane statement and it conflicts with your previous statement.

Stalin thought he was doing great...

Stalin and his ilk are neither moral nor ethical and are likely not even spiritual.

The problem is not with my religion, but with the people who abused their power in my Church.

The same applies to all religions and all non-religions.

And my faith is hardly blind!

It's a bit overdone. Morals, ethics, and spirituality can coexist with religion but are totally independent of religion. They are innate and a part of human nature and are God-given. Religion is contrived by men in the name of a God of their choice.