Oregon Measure 28, Explanitory Statement, Arguments in favor/opposition

Oregon Secretary of State ^ | 01/2003 | Oregon Voters Pamphlet

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2003 January Special Election Online Voters' Guide

Table of Contents

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Online Voters' Guide Cover

Secretary of State's Letter to Oregonians

General Information

Voter Instructions

Voter Registration Information

Measure 28  (includes ballot title and text of measure)

    Explanatory Statement
    Legislative Argument in Support
    Arguments in Favor
    Arguments in Opposition

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January 28, 2003, Special Election Main Page

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Here you go guys....

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[dixiechick2000]

If one is undecided on which way to vote, one doesn't have to read much of the pamplet to make a decision. All you have to do is read who wrote the arguments "for" and "against". Heck, you don't even have to read the arguments.

For instance...

Authors of arguments "for":

Mary Lou Ritter, Washington County Advocates Worried about Seniors, Veterans, People with Disabilities and their Families
Jim Robison, Chair, Democratic Party of Multnomah County
Chris Coughlin, Coalition for School Funding Now
Charles Kurtz, Chair, Elders in Action Commission
The League of Women Voters of Oregon
Oregon Education Association
Oregon AFSCME, Council 75

Well, you get my drift. This is a partial list. After seeing these entities supporting the measure, I'd vote against my grandmother.

[saint]

You got that right, Dix. I've been voting that way for a long time. Just look at who's for a against a measure and decide. One of the good things about life in Oregon. More and more people are making their decisions this way.

[dixiechick2000]

I was born, raised, and spent most of my life in the South. Since most folks, dems and Republicans, were conservative I really had to study the candidates and the issues to decide how to vote. Believe me, I've voted for my share of dems.

In Oregon, I just check who's for or against the measure. In voting for a candidate, though, I'll never vote for a dem here. Heck, I have to hold my nose to vote for some of the Republicans!

Nice to meet you, saint!;o)

[abcraghead]

Booo!!! Hiss!!! Get a backbone, you dumb*ss legislators! We don't have the cash you want!

OK, I am done ranting now.

[abcraghead]

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[WaterDragon]

NO NEW TAXES!!!!!!!

What I'd like to know is why the Oregon Republican Party is not proposing Tax CUTS?

[EBUCK]

I'm not undecided....I want free stuff handed out by my government, it is free after all...

Truthfully, it's time that Oregonians stood up and made them operate within their means. We give them a pass on this one and next time it'll be that much easier to do it again, and again, and again.

And DC2K is right, look at the laundry list of Oregon socialists that back this piece of crap. My wife works for the publik schools and you wouldn't believe the propoganda the school districts, the Union, and the state are feeding them. We are going to one of her union rallys here shortly and I've prepared only one question...

"How could it possibly help our schools to take yet more food from my childrens mouths?"

We'll see where that gets me in that den of red commie ba$tards...

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Actually the Oregon Repubs have a pretty good fiscally conservative statement in the voters pamphlet.

Follow link to arguments in opposition..

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Big Oregon PING!!!!

I'm sure that this is probably preaching to the choir but here's the measure 28 info we will be deciding on the 28th.

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Let me know if you want on or off this list.

[blackie]

Cut taxes, log forests, hatch more fish, abolish ESA and drill for oil and gas in ANWR!

Be Well - Be Armed - Be Safe - Molon Labe!

[Minutemen]

OREGON MEASURE 28

A no-brainer here. Ask yourself these 2 questions:
Will I be earning more money in this new year?
Is my job or income guaranteed in the coming years?
The answer to the preceding questions is how you will vote the measure.

[abcraghead]

"How could it possibly help our schools to take yet more food from my childrens mouths?"

We'll see where that gets me in that den of red commie ba$tards...

Hmm... one of, if not THE worst economy in the Nation, and they want to raise taxes. Sounds like Mao Tse Tung to me!

Everyone is, however, predicting a massive defeat for the measure. So the real question is, what is next, after it fails? Why do I have the feeling that the big prok barrells like ODOT and the Economic Development Dept. won't be cut one dime?

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I don't know why you get that feeling....it's not like they've been cutting school funds, shortening the school year, cutting social services all year while ODOT ect.. haven't lost a dime...

Oh wait, it's exacly like that....

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[Vigilant1]

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"Actually the Oregon Repubs have a pretty good fiscally conservative statement in the voters pamphlet."

Writing statements costs them nothing. Does their voting record match it? I seem to recall that Gordon Smith co-sponsored the bill for the extention of federal unemployment benefits

[Clinging Bitterly]

For those who know my real name, an author of the arguments for has a similar name. Be clear there is no relation.

That said, yer right. Just look who's buying the arguments for and it says it all.

A letter to the editor in today's Eugene paper paraphrases a bible story, saying that if you have two coats you should give one of them to your neighbor who has none. A confused person, for sure. If I had two coats, and the government took one of them away from me, I could hardly give it to anyone, and if I have done my math correctly, out of my two coats, the government has already taken 1-1/4 of them, leaving me 3/4 of a coat.

Two points to make here:
1) Giving is a thing one does voluntarily. You taking from me by force (and be clear that is what this is) is not the same thing as me giving to you.
2) Enough is enough already. You have my extra coat and then some.

Dave in Eugene

[Calico Cat]

Gee, do you think Mary Lou Ritter's group could have come up with a more unwieldy name? 'Washington Country Advocates Worried About Seniors, Veterans, People with Disabilities and Their Families'--catchy! It's WCAWASVPDTF for short.

[dixiechick2000]

"WCAWASVPDTF"

LOL

BTW, I wonder how that is pronounced?;o)

[dixiechick2000]

"Two points to make here:

1) Giving is a thing one does voluntarily. You taking from me by force (and be clear that is what this is) is not the same thing as me giving to you.

2) Enough is enough already. You have my extra coat and then some."

Excellent points. And, the letter is stupid.

Does everyone here understand that this is a retroactive tax?