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Media Cleans Up Strom Thurmond's Racist Quote
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Posted on 12/30/2002 8:30:41 PM PST by chance33_98



Media Cleans Up Strom Thurmond's Racist Quote by Hazel Trice Edney NNPA Washington Correspondent Originally posted 12/16/2002

WASHINGTON (NNPA)—In the wake of the controversy surrounding racist language recently used by former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, news outlets and web sites have focused on the words spoken in 1948 by retiring Senator Strom Thurmond.

Publications such as “The New York Times” and the “Washington Post” and all national news networks have purported to quote Thurmond’s views at the time regarding “the Negro race.” There is only one problem—that’s not exactly what Thurmond said.

According to an excerpt of the speech, which was posted on NPR.org, Thurmond says:

“And I want to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that there’s not enough troops in the Army to force the Southern people to break down segregation and admit the nigger race into our theatres, into our swimming pools, into our homes and into our churches.”

That speech was made July 17, 1948, as Thurmond championed his platform of racial segregation. At the time, he was accepting the presidential nomination of the State’s Rights Party, more accurately called Dixiecrats.

Lott is far from being the only Republican under scrutiny for racist statements.

Rep. Cass Ballenger (R-N.C.) reportedly told ''The Charlotte Observer'' that some of his constituents might empathize with Lott’s original sentiment about segregation. He also said Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.) once made him so angry that, “I must admit I had segregationist feelings.”

McKinney, known for her outspokenness, lost her bid for re-election.

“If I had to listen to her, I probably would have developed a little bit of a segregationist feeling,” Ballenger was quoted Friday in the Observer. “But, I think everybody can look at my life and what I’ve done and say that’s not true…I mean, she was such a bitch.”

McKinney could not be reached for immediate response.

Thurmond's speech was resurrected after Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott wished him a happy 100th birthday by saying America would have been better off had Thurmond been elected president.

“It shows exactly what Strom Thurmond represented and what Trent Lott endorsed,” says Julian Bond, chairman of the NAACP’s board of directors. “The raw language, while properly not used in every day conversation, ought to be used in this context.”

Bond is not the only one who feels that way.

A. Peter Bailey, who teaches a journalism class at the University of District of Columbia in Washington, says he first heard the recording last week on “The Joe Madison Show” on WOL-AM in Washington, D.C., hosted by civil rights activist Joe “Black Eagle” Madison.

“The thing that the newspapers do that absolutely violates Journalism 101 is putting it in quotes,” Bailey says, referring to the word Negro. “They might say, you know, ‘We didn’t want to use the n-word’ or whatever. But there are times when you have to tell the truth.”


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1 posted on 12/30/2002 8:30:41 PM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Strom has always needed dictions lessons from Sheets Byrd on pronouncing racial epithets. Who knows what he said...
2 posted on 12/30/2002 8:35:56 PM PST by evolved_rage
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To: evolved_rage
Strom Thurmond has always been a Carolinian gentleman. It is not likely that he would have used a racial slur, in a public speech, which would be widely reported at the time. I frankly do not believe this source.

For better insights into his actual feelings, one should look at his actions in office. I believe you will find that he either presided over a great improvement of educational opportunities for South Carolina's Negro people, or the plans for same were adopted during his administration.

Finally, the mainstream press were already very liberal on the "Civil Rights" issues, at this time, and would have pounced all over such a slur. I just do not believe it happened. This is just a cheap shot at a very old man, who is no longer able to defend himself effectively.

3 posted on 12/30/2002 8:51:09 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
So what is your point.
4 posted on 12/30/2002 9:09:49 PM PST by BIGZ
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To: chance33_98
Another source claimed he said "Nigra", which used to be a common dialect for "Negro".

However, anyone who still listens to NPR will probably believe NPR.

5 posted on 12/30/2002 9:51:07 PM PST by fastdraw1
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To: fastdraw1; chance33_98
I agree. Growing up in Florida in the 50's, the proper public way to say it was Negro, pronounced in 'southern' in Florida at the time as sort of 'Neegra', which is the way both whites and blacks pronounced it.

speach in polite company, speech in presence of black and whites, speach in presence of ladies never included 'nigger'. Curse words and bar room talk did include it.

Remember the origins - Latin, spanish, portugese:

Main Entry: Ne·gro
Pronunciation: 'nE-(")grO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural Negroes
Etymology: Spanish or Portuguese, from negro black, from Latin nigr-, niger
Date: 1555

Remember Nigeria.

6 posted on 01/01/2003 1:06:56 PM PST by XBob
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To: XBob
It means BLACK
7 posted on 01/01/2003 1:08:30 PM PST by XBob
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To: BIGZ
Point is that Strom Thurmon, as governor, was one of the first to do away with the Poll Tax in his state, 20 years ahead of the rest.
8 posted on 01/01/2003 1:12:19 PM PST by XBob
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To: Ohioan
bttt - "Strom Thurmond has always been a Carolinian gentleman. It is not likely that he would have used a racial slur, in a public speech, which would be widely reported at the time. I frankly do not believe this source. "
9 posted on 01/01/2003 1:15:33 PM PST by XBob
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To: chance33_98
Almost certainly he said "negro" with his deep southern accent, which would sound like "NIG-ruh." Similarly, the word "here" would sound like "HEE-uh" and "tomato" would sound like "MAY-tuh" or "duh-MAY-tuh."

As an aside, I believe the slang term "n!gg@r" is actually a bastardization of "negro," evolved over time. I don't think it was even necessarily a derogatory epthet until American blacks began to object to it, after which some people would use it spitefully, just because blacks didn't like it.

Before that, it was just a lower class southern dialectic mispronunciation of the noun "negro," which in itself carried no more hostile meaning than calling someone a "black person."

But I could be wrong.

10 posted on 01/01/2003 1:37:55 PM PST by Yeti
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To: Yeti
you did an even better job than me at describing the dialect pronunciation. I can hear it in my head, but I can't get the phonetics of the sound exactly right.
11 posted on 01/02/2003 8:29:44 PM PST by XBob
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To: TLBSHOW
"And I want to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that there’s not enough troops in the Army to force the Southern people to break down segregation and admit the nigger race into our theatres, into our swimming pools, into our homes and into our churches."

That speech was made July 17, 1948, as Thurmond championed his platform of racial segregation. At the time, he was accepting the presidential nomination of the State’s Rights Party, more accurately called Dixiecrats.

Hey "T"! Still saying that Thurmond didn't run as a segregationist?

12 posted on 01/02/2003 8:34:13 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: XBob
HEY!!

Haven't seen you in a coon's age!

13 posted on 01/02/2003 8:34:57 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: chance33_98
The word Nigger in '48 did not carry the same meaning as it does today...

The author is right in criticizing...but he should also point out that for some...it carried the same meaning as "African American" does today...

To draw parrallels across generations is trepidatious at best...

Question for the Author: What was the politically correct term to describe Americans of African ancestory in 1948?

14 posted on 01/02/2003 8:40:22 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: fastdraw1; Ohioan; XBob; Yeti
Judge for yourself:

http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/atc/20021205.atc.thurmond.ram

15 posted on 01/02/2003 8:46:09 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You live dangerously.
16 posted on 01/02/2003 8:46:11 PM PST by Nick Danger
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Hey L
still playing the race card?
17 posted on 01/02/2003 8:48:36 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Lott is far from being the only Republican under scrutiny for racist statements


YOU COULD BE NEXT..........
18 posted on 01/02/2003 8:49:31 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
T..you are an embarrasment to this forum.

I hear that your new thing is calling Jews the anti-Christ.

19 posted on 01/02/2003 9:20:58 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: TLBSHOW
Can't handle the heat T?
20 posted on 01/02/2003 9:25:44 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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