TV's Law & Order Cracks Down on White Men

Toogood Reports ^ | 29 December 2002 | Nicholas Stix

[mrustow]

Here's what I seem to recall; you tell me if I have the wrong episode/story line. The killer was a white guy from the deli (owner?) who had a special, reserved parking spot at the racetrack. The cops pinched a couple of black guys when they parked their (SUV?) in the spot. They told the cops that the guy let them use his spot (and they were telling the truth). I vaguely recall a big black guy on a couch, but not where he fits in the story.

[mrustow]

But it doesn't change the fact that it's FICTION and not news.

It changes everything, when a prodcuer claims to be giving dramatic recreations of real crimes. NYPD Blue makes no such claims. The West Wing makes no such claims. L&O does.

[VetsRule]

You've got the right episode, but the wrong details.

The racetrack spot was reserved for a rich black guy who was probably dealing drugs. They pinched him and his two buddies, all of whom were caught on video taking video equipment and a plasma TV out of the dead woman's apartment. It turns out they were collecting on a debt, and she was alive when they left, although they were almost executed because no one believed them.

The white deli owner just gave the cops some leads, there was no other real connection. There were also two white tourists who took the videotape, but they weren't really involved except for selling the tape to a TV station. (The cops convinced the TV station to wait a day before airing the video.)

After Southerlyn moralized to McCoy, he poked into the cell phone records and matched up another phone call from the huge black guy. That's when they looked into his record and saw he had a gun conviction (IIRC) of the same type that killed the girl. The police busted in and booked the perp, who was the real murderer. The three convicted guys from the racetrack were released.

VR

[LdSentinal]

"Ripped From the Headlines"

BTW, when was the last time the guilty person was a black in an episode? At the beginning, many of the criminals were minorities. In recent years, the vast majority of the criminals are white.

[jjm2111]

You complaining?

Not really.

[jjm2111]

But if Tovah had never had ANY help, and I were single and had the opportunity, I still wouldn't throw her out of bed for eating crackers.

I'm single but I wouldn't go anywhere near Tovah. Way too old. :) (She's over thirty years older than me.)

[jjm2111]

Someone once said that if aliens were monitoring our TV emissions they would think that judgeships were the sole propriety of black women.

[Main Street]

Is this one of their Politically Correct anti-white male advertisers?

http://www.ca.com/media/020116_brightstor_amnesia.ram

[mrustow]

"Ripped From the Headlines"

BTW, when was the last time the guilty person was a black in an episode? At the beginning, many of the criminals were minorities. In recent years, the vast majority of the criminals are white.

There is an inverse relationship between the reality of black criminality, and its depiction on TV. According to leftwing groups like the Washington D.C., Sentencing Project, the percentage of black men between 220 and 30 years of age who are either in prison, on parole or probation, went up 33% (from 25% to 33%) between 1990 and 2000, yet the depiction of black men by the TV news and dramas steadily dropped during the same period.

[mrustow]

Sorry, but my computer's messed up, and I can't use a/v programs, until I get a new sound card.

[Main Street]

Sorry. Try this link.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43512-2002Dec27.html

It's the video advertisement to the right of the story.
They would have NEVER done this with the races reversed.

[Sonny M]

I'm pretty sure Goren isn't pro-life. I remember an episode where his partner asked him point blank, and he gave some vauge answer about he doesn't like it personally, but sometimes its nesessary and he understands that it has to be there. (Sort of like the mario cuomo answer). I do remember the first law and orders, Greevy was a solid pro-lifer who was also socially conservative on other issues too. Ben Stone came across as somone who was pro-life but had to do his job. The thing that got alot of african americans riled up on criminal intent was 2 episodes, one Goren basically insults Carver when Carver forced him to use force to get somone (it was ripped from the headlines episode about pardons) and another episode where Goren lies to Carver and makes him look bad (don't know which episode that was). On another note, you ever notice how when its a political thing involving real life dems, they change it to republicans? Example would be the pardons, were done by Clinton, in the episode it was changed to the NYS governor. They also had one where the politician kills somone (they made him a conservative) and gets off.

[Sonny M]

Isn't Duke being prosecuted now or something. I remember when he was making a wannabe run for the presidency, some of his former KKK buddies came out and said point blank, that he never quit, he was thrown out of the Klan because he was stealing membership rosters and selling them, that he was always looking for opputunities to make money off of them. These guys were hardcore racists to boot, they basically made some comparisions to him and jewish people and some crap about conspiracies. "You put him in any office, and he'll be opening a store the next day"

[mrustow]

They have several revolving ads for Accenture, computer associates, and Strayer U. I have a feeling that you saw yet a fourth ad.

[mrustow]

As much as I like Jerry Ohrbach, my favorite character on L&O remains the original protagonist, Det. Max McGreevey, as played by George Dzundza. Do you know why Dzundza left the show after only one season? I thought it was because he had a fantasy he could become a movie star, and so Dick Wolf killed him off, but I could be wrong. (Dzundza then co-starred with Demi Moore -- who was then on her way up -- in a total flopperoo fantasy called The Butcher's Wife.)

[Bogolyubski]

I think the Feds are considering some sort of action because of his speech to a bunch of Islamists in Qatar or some such place. The topic of the speech was quite predictable: (it's all the Jews' fault, no Jews were in the WTC that day, etc.) I don't see that they'd have that much of a case in light of how many leftist whack-jobs are over in Iraq rooting for Saddam, though. Duke is both traitor and flim-flam man - what a lovely combination!

[mrustow]

Found this at a L&O fan site:

3.4 WHATEVER HAPPENED TO... [WARNING!! SPOILER-HEAVY SECTION]

3.4.1 ...George Dzundza (Sgt. Max Greevey)? George Dzundza quit the show after its first season over a dispute with the writers and producers over scheduling and script quality. The series was originally set to film in Los Angeles, but when Dick Wolf won his fight to shoot it in New York, Dzundza did not want to relocate his family there, and thus had to divide his time between the two locations. This argument reached a breaking point when the producers threatened to sue him if Dzundza interrupted shooting to be with his wife at the birth of their child. Dzundza's actual last appearance is in "The Blue Wall," though his character, Greevey, makes a shadowy appearance in the second season opener, "Confession" through the magic of doubles.

Sgt. Max Greevey's first appearance was in "Prescription for Death." In his final episode, he was shot to death in the second season opener, "Confession," by Daniel Madigan, Jr., who wanted to silence his grand jury testimony on construction industry corruption.

[Sonny M]

Do you know which Law and Order site that was, and can you get me the address or link?

[Rainbow Rising]

Thanks for the link to the other article. Interesting reading.

Law & Order's forays into PC Land annoy me so much because it is such a good show otherwise. When they concentrate solely on telling a good crime story, they create top-drawer entertainment. Story should come first and foremost, and to hell with political grandstanding.