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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Medieval fascinations & fetishes are not the topic of this post...but I see your point trying to paint Christians as banal.

The evidence that a virgin did conceive, and give birth to a man who did many miracles and eventually even raised Himself from the dead--so that all His original followers were willing (and often were) to be tortured to death proclaiming these facts, is there--if you open your eyes.

Millions of lives have been radically changed for the better by accepting these facts. I hope you will be one of them.
71 posted on 12/23/2002 10:13:30 AM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
The topic is the virgin birth of Jesus. Three different claims go by that description. I distinguished them above. That's all.

There's a latin ditty that sums up the view: "virginitas ante partum, virginitas in partu, virginitas post partum".

It's hard to tell, but I take it that the British Clergy are doubting the "in partu" clause whereas people here want to defend the "ante partum" line.
76 posted on 12/23/2002 10:33:23 AM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: AnalogReigns
Medieval fascinations & fetishes are not the topic of this post...but I see your point trying to paint Christians as banal.

What you blithely dismiss as a "medieval fascination and fetish" is a defined article of faith for 1 billion Catholics and 300 million Eastern Orthodox. Maybe you ought to be a bit more circumspect about your dismissals.

101 posted on 12/23/2002 11:42:47 AM PST by Campion
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