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Wednesday, 12/18, Market WrapUp (Effects Are Felt From Venezuela's Turmoil)
Financial Sense Online ^ | 12/18/2002 | James J. Puplava

Posted on 12/18/2002 5:04:31 PM PST by rohry

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"Times Have Changed

This is one of the main differences between the US in the 1930’s and the US in the 21st century. During the 1930’s the US was a self-sufficient nation. It was self-sufficient in manufacturing with large trade balances with the rest of the world. It was self-sufficient in energy. During World War II the US supplied all of its allies with fuel and was the largest exporter of oil in the world. The US was also self-sufficient in capital. It was the world’s largest creditor nation. Today we find ourselves at the opposite end of the spectrum. We are no longer self-sufficient in manufacturing. Much of our manufacturing base has headed overseas. We now import many essential goods from raw materials such as lumber to finished goods. We are no longer a creditor nation, but have become the world’s largest debtor nation sucking in 80 percent of the world’s available savings. We now need to import $1.5 to $2 billion of capital a day to keep our economy running. In the area of energy we must import nearly 60 percent of all our energy needs."

1 posted on 12/18/2002 5:04:32 PM PST by rohry
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To: bvw; Tauzero; robnoel; kezekiel; ChadGore; Harley - Mississippi; Dukie; Matchett-PI; Moonman62; ...
Market WrapUp is delivered...
2 posted on 12/18/2002 5:05:24 PM PST by rohry
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the world’s largest debtor nation sucking in 80 percent of the world’s available savings.

What does this say? We what?

3 posted on 12/18/2002 5:09:53 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: rohry
Golden bump. ;^)
4 posted on 12/18/2002 5:13:04 PM PST by headsonpikes
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The earnings warnings came with a wide swath of companies ranging from Micron technology, Bank of New York, Blockbuster and FedEx.

For a complete list of earnings warnings, go here:

List of Earnings Warnings

Richard W.

5 posted on 12/18/2002 5:37:11 PM PST by arete
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To: RightWhale
the world’s largest debtor nation sucking in 80 percent of the world’s available savings.

"What does this say? We what?"

Balance of trade...40% of federal bonds owned by foreigners...X% of stocks owned by foreigners...Y% of dollars owned by foreigners...

Need I go on?

6 posted on 12/18/2002 5:37:59 PM PST by rohry
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Need I go on?

No, one needn't go on. One could though, especially if running for high elective office.

7 posted on 12/18/2002 5:45:00 PM PST by RightWhale
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What may come to the US may be similar to what is now happening in Argentina.

Frightening...

8 posted on 12/18/2002 5:45:55 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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Why is gold continuing to take off? Up $4.00 in after hours trading.
9 posted on 12/18/2002 5:52:35 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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Frightening...

Anytime you see FED governors out talking trash about burying the planet in dollar bills, you know that we're in trouble. If the FED is panicing, what the heck should we all be doing?

Richard W.

10 posted on 12/18/2002 5:54:21 PM PST by arete
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Why is gold continuing to take off? Up $4.00 in after hours trading.

Kudlow and Cramer are trashing gold and declaring deflation dead. They are very good contrarian indicators. Those guys are two of the biggest clowns on TV.

Richard W.

11 posted on 12/18/2002 5:56:48 PM PST by arete
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'Much of our manufacturing base has headed overseas'

....."if World War Two were to come again there wouldn't be enough domestic textile capacity to put all the boys in uniform"....so says my father-in-law who retired after almost 40 years in the Carolina's textile industry....and BTW anybody who's ever seen what happens to a small town when the mill closes down knows how devastating it is in human terms.....and in a larger sense what is the long term strategic outlook for a country when it's citizens no longer know how to weave cloth, or how to make steel, or how to build ships or how to grow food?....

Good luck to everybody!

Stonewalls

12 posted on 12/18/2002 6:11:35 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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Gold market is open in Sydney and Hong Kong and they are doing their best to rocket the price up.

Richard W.

13 posted on 12/18/2002 6:18:41 PM PST by arete
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.....oops!...forgot to thank you Rohry for posting n' hosting....I always look foreward to these discussions....

.....hope everybody's got their Christmas shopping done... I experianced long lines at the registers at my local mega-mall and the Post Office was madness on Friday.

Good luck to everybody!

Stonewalls the Ant

14 posted on 12/18/2002 6:26:05 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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Why does Hong Kong and Sydney want to rocket up the price of gold? I understand that Australia is a major source of gold, and that Hong Kong merchants are probably well-endowed, but does that explain what we see?
15 posted on 12/18/2002 7:14:33 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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Gold's 350.40 last trade at 7:17 PST.

A whole lot of factors coming together imo; to look for a specific cause is the fallacy of scientism when applied to human affairs. Gold market player's reaction to the Blanshard lawsuit is certainly helping boost things overnight.

It wouldn't surprise me to see gold pushing $400 before March, maybe even within two weeks!

That's unknowable, despite what the technical analysts say. ;^)
16 posted on 12/18/2002 7:18:16 PM PST by headsonpikes
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Is it just my imagination that the anti-reality crowd only shows up here on days the SM goes up?

Yep, gold. Still time to get on the elevator.
17 posted on 12/18/2002 7:18:17 PM PST by jwh_Denver
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Better run up a floor - gold up $8.70 at $350.50.
18 posted on 12/18/2002 7:23:34 PM PST by jwh_Denver
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1) I was not asking for a specific cause, just speculation, as you provided in your answer.

2) I thought Blanchard had made a big deal about how they were leaving the gold-selling business, circa 2000, all but apologizing for having recommended that its customers buy gold for an investment. Has that changed? If so, when did that change?

19 posted on 12/18/2002 7:30:44 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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To: Lunatic Fringe
What may come to the US may be similar to what is now happening in Argentina. Frightening

If we were to fall into really bad times, what will make chaos in this country different from other countries; is the civilian population is well armed. - Tom

20 posted on 12/18/2002 7:45:23 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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