I'm a Londoner. To tell the truth, I am more angry than scared by this. I am sick to death of Al Qaeda, radical Islam, and all that they stand for. If this is the price we have to pay to fight it, then pay we must.
Regards, Ivan
Posted on 12/18/2002 8:15:56 AM PST by MadIvan
Britain is facing a real threat of terrorist attacks against soft targets which could cause mass civilian casualties, senior sources admitted today.
In the bleakest assessment yet of the threat to Britain, a source said the Government was facing up to the view that a determined terror group will "sooner or later" get through Britain's defences.
Well-placed figures say that while the Government has no specific alerts or warnings, the activities of al Qaeda in the past six months make clear the sort of threat we face.
They speak frankly in private about "mass casualty attacks against soft targets, assassinations, attacks on shipping".
A senior Whitehall figure said: "They are fairly conventional but nonetheless pretty deadly. That is what we fear will be directed against us and we are building our efforts to prevent."
Sources are adamant that a terrorist atrocity in Britain is not inevitable, but as ministers have said, the threat to Britain remains high.
The senior figure said: "The intelligence service, security services and police are working hard. They have leads, they are following them up, arrests get made.
"It [an attack] is not inevitable, but the probability is that sooner or later one of these groups, who are extremely determined, will get through." In a bleak warning to Londoners, the source added: "As we saw with the Soho bomb, it's not hard to plant a bomb to kill quite a lot of people who are just out having fun."
British intelligence is sifting up to 150 reports per day linked to international terrorism. The data is said to be "very fragmentary".
In Whitehall, it is accepted that so-called "postcard targets", such as Big Ben, are high on Al Qaeda's list. But Whitehall sources stress that the notion of a terrorist detonating a "nuclear backpack" is remote.
I'm a Londoner. To tell the truth, I am more angry than scared by this. I am sick to death of Al Qaeda, radical Islam, and all that they stand for. If this is the price we have to pay to fight it, then pay we must.
Regards, Ivan
I can't tell you how I know, but I do know that names were taken down at the time. The fools merely exposed themselves for what they are by protesting.
Regards, Ivan
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London, Dec 18
Four alleged terrorists with al-Qaeda links, arrested from a flat in the Paris suburb of Courneuve, are suspected of plotting to launch chemical attacks in Europe and possibly in Britain, around Christmas time.
The French police have informed their British counterparts here that the four, three of whom had been to Chechenya, have links with terrorist suspects rounded up in Britain. Chemicals and a special nuclear, biological and chemical warfare protection suit, as well as 5000 dollars in cash, were recovered from their flat.
Detectives in Paris said the three of the four arrested by them had links with Abu Doha, a London-based Algerian, who allegedly has close links with the al-Qaeda network, according to German police.
Further evidence has reportedly emerged that al-Qaeda terrorists entered Britain using false identities which have made it difficult for the police to keep track of their movements. Some have reportedly already left for other destinations in Europe.
British police sources admitted that one suspected al-Qaeda terrorist wanted by the US for the bombing of its embassies in Kenya and Tanzania had been treated for cancer at an NHS hospital in Home Counties.
The police suspicion of possible terror attacks during Christmas Britain has been validated. The country has already been placed on high alert but if more plots are unearthed, the government could initiate a state of ''imminent'' threat.
There are some. I am unusual in being as young as I am and thinking this way.
I was in Yorkshire a couple of years ago, and it seemed to be full of middle-easterners.
Bradford, I take it.
I think much of Europe has turned communist, one world government. Do you think Britain will hold out?
One great thing gives me hope - it looks certain that the UK will reject joining the single European currency. This, combined with those who want to build a European superstate actually wanting Britain thrown out of the EU, means we have a chance at avoiding a terrible fate.
Regards, Ivan
Islamists want nothing better than a violent reaction from the west whether or not it comes from Europe or the USA. They figure it would galvanize the Islamic world to bind itself closer to a single political entity. Then, Al Qaeda figures it would be in the best position to usurp the Arab/Muslim world into a new caliphate.
Don't be fooled into thinking they are going to wait until their numbers increase in western societies. They are going to act before Bush and team catches and either imprison or kill the b@st@rds.
Keep a close eye on your Muslim neighbors because the truly vicious ones are moving among them.
Someone here advocated the excellent idea of dropping the carcasses of pigs and dogs on the Al-Aqsa mosque.
I like the idea; I think we should fly a super-scooper loaded with pigs' blood and drench the KaaBa in Mecca.
I've also advocated nuking Mecca and Medina (~1 megaton) if the Islamists perpetrate another outrage (think, e.g., of demolishing the Sears Tower or releasing smallpox).
"But that will make them mad!"
No, it will cause all the ones who are already mad to die of brain aneurysms and convert the rest to madmen. We know how to deal with them.
WE think of the as the "wrong nations" to make angry.
They WANT to provoke a global Jihad, They KNOW God is on their side, they KNOW they will win the final battle, they KNOW they are all going straight to paradise as a direct result of their doing "God's will"...
Britain now is considered a "soft" target across the length and breadth of the country. Thousands of Islamic fifth columnists draw the attention of the security services while major al-Qaeda cells remain unexposed and free to operate. It is estimated the Islamic entente can put in excess of two hundred automatic-weapon firing, grenade throwing fighters into the streets of London on 24 hours notice.
Such a follow-up assault to a series of huge conventional explosions and tube chemical attack is the proper move from a games-theory perspective despite the probability of losing 100-150 fighters. By turning London into a modern day version of Hue in 1968, the Islamic entente would deliver a crushing defeat to the West.
Unfortunately for the Brits they will be unable to stop this attack. Too much time and planning has gone into this 9/11 follow-up fait accompli. The increased "chatter" reported of late by American intelligence continues to focus on the UK. Recent reports from Pakistan indicate an outflow of veteran Kashmir fighters to Paris -- the traditional jumping off point to assault across the Channel.
Should the Islamic entente roll the big dice and lead with a tactical nuclear device -- "Allah's suitcase" -- then a thousand or so fifth columnists are expected to hurl themselves at British institutions the length of the island. Then once again the battle imitates Tet -- where more than a hundred attacks were launched simultaneously across Vietnam under cover of the national holiday.
Such an attack would be the death knell for Britain. The West should continue American based contingency planning for the total economic and physical collapse of the UK...
The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.
Our hands can still reach across the water. The death knell will ring for Islam...
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You view Islamic terrorists as representatives of the 'Forces of Freedom'?
An interesting perspective, Fusion, and one that tell us all we need to know about you.
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