Reponsible for death of
1,000,000 people in Iraq
800,000 in Rwanda
800,000 to 2,500,000 in East Congo
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With over 2 million deaths, still small fry compared to Hitler and Stalin, but deadlier than Pol Pot.
Posted on 12/17/2002 6:54:00 AM PST by wonders
2 hours, 48 minutes ago
By Abigail Levene
THE HAGUE (Reuters) - The "unimaginable" rapes, killings and camps of the 1992-5 Bosnian war evoked the horrors of World War II, former U.S. secretary of state Madeleine Albright (news - web sites) told the U.N. war crimes tribunal Tuesday.
At a landmark hearing to determine sentence for ex-Bosnian Serb President Biljana Plavsic, Albright -- the most senior U.S. official ever to testify at The Hague (news - web sites) -- described her horror as she learned of ethnic cleansing of non-Serbs in the Bosnian war.
"It was unimaginable that these kinds of things could be going on and that they were being done ... in a deliberate way, not some accident of a drunken soldier marauding, but part of some kind of plan to eradicate various groups of people," Albright said as Plavsic listened intently from the dock.
Albright, whose long-standing support for the war crimes court has earned her the tag "mother of the tribunal," was appearing on the second day of a three-day hearing for a woman once dubbed the "Iron Lady" of the Bosnian war.
Plavsic, 72, could face life in prison after changing her plea in October to guilty of one count of crimes against humanity for persecution of Bosnian Muslims and Croats during the 1990s conflict, which left 200,000 dead or missing.
The highest-ranking figure to admit atrocities and the only woman publicly indicted in the U.N. tribunal's nine-year history, Plavsic avoided trial after a surprise plea volte-face that her lawyers said was born of deep remorse.
Other charges, including genocide, have been dropped.
The Czech-born Albright, who lived in Yugoslavia for some years as a child and spent more time there in the 1960s, described her shock at seeing what had seemed a harmonious multi-ethnic society descend into "barbarity."
"It became very evident to anyone who was watching what was going on that it was reminiscent of pictures that reminded one of World War II," she said, referring to the separation of families and herding of victims onto buses and trains.
"We saw pictures of people being taken into what could only be labeled as concentration camps...People were being driven from their homes only because of who they were."
NEGATIVE IMPRESSIONS
Albright said she had had negative impressions of Plavsic, based on what she had heard and read, before they first met in 1997 but those gradually improved as it became clear Plavsic backed the 1995 Dayton accord that ended the Bosnian war.
Plavsic served as deputy to Bosnian Serb wartime leader Radovan Karadzic, one of the tribunal's most wanted men, and later took over from him.
The former science professor initially pleaded innocent to genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes after surrendering to the U.N. court in January 2001.
"I found her a very conflicted individual," Albright said, referring to Plavsic's belief that the best way to protect Serb interests was to support Dayton despite its wide unpopularity among Serbs.
Next to testify after Albright was former international Balkans envoy Carl Bildt, a witness for Plavsic's defense.
When he became High Representative in Bosnia after the Dayton agreement, Bildt said it became clear to him that Plavsic was not at the heart of power in Bosnia's Serb republic.
"It was obvious to me that she was not part of the real...leadership," Bildt said. "She had never been brought into any of the discussions, any of the decisions and any of the meetings to deal with the critical issues of war, peace and power."
The sentencing hearing, unprecedented at the tribunal in its scope and style, began Monday with witnesses including Nobel Peace Prize winner and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel -- who testified for the prosecution by video link -- and former Bosnian Serb Premier Milorad Dodik for the defense.
A Muslim survivor of Serb-run detention camps, a war crimes investigator and a trauma counselor also testified.
Prosecutors showed harrowing footage of emaciated Bosnian Muslim inmates at a Serb-run detention camp in 1992 -- scenes that shocked the world and revived memories of the Nazi death camps where millions died in World War II.
Which is direct contrast to this:
Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.
--60 Minutes (5/12/96)
You mean like when the Croats and the Muslims (allied with the Nazis) killed over 500,000 Serbs and ran concentration camps? The Serbs (who were allied with the USA) did things like save downed US pilots and conduct guerilla war against the Nazis.
You mean like when the Nazis raised TWO Waffen-SS MUSLIM divisions for the express purpose of terrorizing the population (Serb) in the Balkans?
I used to think I wouldn't wish being tried in the Roo Court on any human being, no matter how evil. But I must confess, wouldn't mind seeing "the mother" of that abomination standing in the dock as "the Accused," Judge May presiding.
Actually, he had TB. I'd even bet that most medical doctors familiar with the "TB look" would have figured out the fraud long ago. You're right about them being outside the fence. It was the journalists who were inside the fence.
The footage made by ITN presstitute Penny Marchall is documented to be a fake
ICTY is commiting an act of HOLOCAUST REVISIONISM by COMPARING FAKE Footage with HOLOCAUST.Such acts are punishable by law in majority of civilized countries
Paging David Irwing,a job opening in ICTY /sarcasm off
Wow, mr.pink, you have quite a way with words. Thank you putting what I've always sensed about the woman so eloquently. Hope you don't mind my quoting you in future!
BTW, the career folks in State had no use for her and couldn't contain their giggles when the word came out that she'd been egged in Borovo Selo during her visit to the UNTAES Region in Croatia, a child of Dayton, in 1997. I didn't have much use for the Borovo folks, but they had the right idea that day.
Reponsible for death of
1,000,000 people in Iraq
800,000 in Rwanda
800,000 to 2,500,000 in East Congo
With over 2 million deaths, still small fry compared to Hitler and Stalin, but deadlier than Pol Pot.
Oh, that was in France, at Ramboulliet, where she was mistaken for a cleaning lady!
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