Posted on 12/15/2002 8:34:40 PM PST by Notwithstanding
Their so-called smoking gun theory boils down to this: the pope in 1999 recommended that a defrocked priest ought not return to the area where he committed his offenses. They take this eminently sensible advice and use it as a hammer to bludgeon the pope. Just so everyone understands what’s going on here, what the pope did was to say that a former priest—someone who had been returned to the status of a layman—ought to start a new life in a new location. Isn’t this what parole boards recommend to released inmates—that they not return to the neighborhood that nurtured their maladies? Shame on Massachusetts Attorney General Thomas Reilly and others for disseminating this mindless charge.
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The reports vary wildly in their numbers. It could be anywhere from 2% to 30%--and I suspect that the higher-level numbers (say, greater than 10%) are in a FEW Dioceses and/or Orders where there is an established 'pro-gay' slant.
My offhand and slightly educated guess tells me that there MAY be ONE homosexual priest in all of Nebraska...but there are likely a high percentage that have been through the Jesuit order in the USA--many, of course, are no longer actively Jesuits.
The Pink Mafia is an "underground" homosexual organization within the church, so no one really knows how many are where yet. I suppose time will bring them all out- maybe.
A popular, yet ignorant and specious argument.
My daughter wants the computer, but I feel one more comment could explain why some are considered "bigots" for not supporting a homosexual approving church (Yes, they still have their gay outreach program - no kidding!).
I've always thought the Catholics praying to dead people was strange. Jesus said to pray to God. His death bought us, and we now pray through him. He now owns us. I'd rather have Jesus pulling for me than a dead person anyday.
I didn't think much of it, really. I felt "To each their own, I guess."
But when the Catholic church sided with homosexual pedophiles rather than the molested children, I drew the line. Now, I think they're more than just strange. I see them as the apostate church of the end times. They've joined the politically correct religion of the Anti-Christ. The cover up was for money and lusts, not for God.
There's not one bit of sorrow or concern anywhere for the molested children. They're just getting in the Churches way. They're taking it's Holy money!!!
It's pretty sad, really.
I'm siding with the kids. Screw the priests - literally.
How clear is that?
It is uncompassionate of me, I know, but it is even less stringent than what the Church did to people it deemed heretics during the inquisition.
Spare us the hyperbole.
"Notwithstanding" stated that this is unfair in that the Popes directive is being take out of context whereas it refers to those priests that have been defrocked or laicized. Maybe so, but I don't think the outworking of the policy supports that interpertation. Therefore I asked him to show me the instances of where the priests that were moved to other locations were defrocked. I think the evidence shows that overwhelmingly they were not laicized, but just relocated and commendated and praised and put in positions of trust, often repeatedly after failings. This is the earmark of a prepetual "cover up" not just the clergys inability to deal with evolving medical information. The latest revelations from Law absolutely supports this conclusion and I am hard pressed to find any other interpertation of the Popes memorandum. I ask for a few examples of the lacized priests being moved when I see there is recrods for 325 offending priests in Boston alone that were not lacized.
"Why are you speaking to the dead?" -- Jesus.
He has none; the order is ultimately unenforceable. However, the perp is still a Catholic, and still has a duty to obey his superiors as long as they don't command him to sin. It's only under pain of disobedience that the Pope can command him to move.
It referred to a specific individual, and the document itself removed him from the priesthood.
Sure there is. NAMBLA is almost "tolerated" in the politically correct religion of politics. Yet, it has already been "tolerated" in your church. Your church is even more progressive than GLADD!
When you say "the church" do you mean just the hierarchy, or do you mean all of us?
The hierarchy, and those who support or cover for them.
Many Catholics are saying the resignation of C.Law isn't enough. I agree with them.
I have yet to hear the Church put the kids first. All we hear about it the "poor victimized church" or "forgive the indiscresions of the men of God!" or "Rabid Bigots Falsely Accuse Pope".
Until the Church, "of peter" cleans out all the sodomites, I'd say there's no room for any respect. God warned them 2000 years ago about these folks. They ignored him.
People were speaking to the dead! He told them to leave them, and follow the living.
I believe this is due to his diminished capacities ... I pray the next pope will take a firm stand against the homosexual subculture and also the budding feminist subculture in the Church. I am encouraged by the stand taken by Cardinal Bevilacqua of Philadelphia, and his efforts to purge the homsexuals from St. Charles Borromeo Seminary. The news media do not mention him, but I do every chance I get.
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